steveb

Re: Is a year too long to wait for a catagory? If you want to help out you should consider following the advice found all over this board. Apply to be an editor of a small category, and work your way up to this pretty huge one. If you just want your site listed, that ain't gonna happen. Someone has to show an interest in this area and volunteer to edit, either a current editor or someone who joins up and now and earns the privilege of being allowed to edit such a large category.

As the forum guidelines state, please wait at least a month or two between status update requests. http://www.resource-zone.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=status&Number=3025&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1

I can't speak to any specific reasons because I don't make those sort of decisions, but the category you applied for is basically huge for a new editor. I'd suggest you try one of the categories listed http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Travel/Specialty_Travel/Ecotourism/Dolphins,_Manatees,_and_Whales/Regional/North_America/United_States/ here or one of the other ones in the Regional subcategory (lots of choices under 20 sites). Do a good job with a smallish category and you likely should be able to be editing that larger category in not that long.

You need to first understand that there is a difference between "abuse" and "not very good editing". Abuse is something you need to contact staff or Meta editors about. and every other editor will have no way of knowing anything about it. Up until a couple weeks ago I didn't know much of anything about Bingo sites, especially online ones, and didn't have permission to even edit in those categories. Since then I've gone through the various Bingo categories and removed the obvious dead sites, and the obvious online affiliate ones. Whatever changes you have seen in these categories has been because I edited in them and not because of the abuse report because I haven't seen that. I went through the category again before the dmoz hard drive crash the other night and did a little more work there. I think I removed at least one affiliate site then but I can't get into the logs right now to check. Please feel free to look at the category now and send me which sites are clearly affiliates, who they are affiliated to, and most important, a main or parent site for the affiliates. Also a link to any site that lists who is affiliated to whom would be helpful. But again, this information is just you as somebody who knows something about Bingo offering helpful information to an editor. Anything having to do with alleged abuse should be sent elsewhere. http://dmoz.org/cgi-bin/send.cgi?toeditor=poker You might also want to use the private message thingee here since dmoz is still creaking along right now: http://www.resource-zone.com/sendprivate.php?Cat=

Your site offers virtually no free information to judge. The last editor to register found the games being offered were from other companies. Affiliate sites like this are never listed.

Re: http://www.dot-bingo.com/ These are the ODP gambling guidelines http://dmoz.org/guidelines/gambling/ They supplement the general guidelines http://dmoz.org/guidelines/ ODP aims to list sites with unique content, not sites with copied content, extensive or not. A site that merely copies the recent speeches of George Bush and Sadaam Hussein would be presenting important information, but the ODP wouldn't list dozens and dozens of sites like that. That doesn't mean it is a "bad" site or something. It just means it isn't a site ODP will list. The travel site was removed as soon as I saw it. The Bingo lovers site, which is listed on the correct URL, appears to have some unique, original content so it more obviously merits a listing. You may think it is rubbish but it is interesting that you mention it was "written". That is the point, original content. If you copied everything on her site and put it on yours, that wouldn't make yours listable. And I'm not the right person to completely edit a Bingo category, but I am able to recognize those sites that clearly don't, or clearly do, meet the guideline requirements for a listing in the Bingo category of the ODP. People with Bingo expertise are welcome to volunteer their time to the Directory.

Re: http://www.dot-bingo.com/ I just removed a couple Bingo sites that were dead or non-compliant with the Gambling Guidelines, but that has nothing to do with the abuse report sent in, since I don't know anything about that or even have access to it. Regarding the original question, dot-bingo.com's news and glossary are copied, the "free stuff" is off topic, and directory of online sites is not listable content as ODP now doesn't list online gambling directory sites. So the site was deleted.

See the category description link in the upper right: http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Home_and_Garden/Emergency_Supplies/Security/desc.html I don't know this material but that seems like a good guideline for you.

I has been listed here for a couple of days http://dmoz.org/Games/Gambling/Guides/Reviews/

Where you direct your traffic isn't our concern. clublottery is mirroring clublotto. We won't list a mirror. If you want me to delete the clublotto submission I can do that, but as long as clublotto is the main site, any mirror won't be listed.

This site is a mirror and won't be listed. www.clublotto.co.za is awaiting review in the /Games/Gambling/Lotteries/Regional/ queue with less than a couple dozen sites. There is no need to resubmit it. Please do not submit other mirrors.

There are less than ten sites in all the Bingo queues put together and all but a couple were submitted in February or March.

There is nothing closed about these categories. That's just silly. And I explained to you before what the removing of sites done by kctipton entails... it's removing dead, non-existent sites or those that have gone over to porn or something else. I had four such sites removed this week. This is a good thing, certainly not bad. Editing in ODP is a process. The key element needed is a human who knows something about the topic willing to put in the effort to do the work. I don't know diddly about bingo. I can handle sites about physical bingo halls or bingo magazines, but anything more than that needs a person with some expertise to do a good job of evaluating a site. Nobody has locked all the bingo knowledgable people in the world in a closet and said they could not volunteer to edit the categories there, or join the ODP in other categories and then add bingo (or whatever). It may please you to know (maybe not I guess) that I've gone through every submitted site in the Gambling queues, its a process called greenbusting, and there are 150 or so sites that likely will be added sometime in the next few weeks. I also deleted hundreds of dead, non-compliant with the guidelines or just lame "sites". That's the way it works. Somebody did something about something. Other people could if they wanted to, but that is up to them. The only reason backlogs exist in ODP is because people don't persevere in volunteering to see that they are eliminated.

The basic point is just that ODP doesn't list some kind of sites. besides affiliate casinos we also don't list "gambling directories", there just is no category for those. I suppose I might be being overly helpful here, but if you are just dying to be listed in the directory... while ODP also doesn't list doorway sites, there is nothing stopping you from moving your content pages to a separate domain and then having some links to joesjackpots. The content would have to overwhelm the links and not the other way around. If you had 1000 pages of great content and one single link to your casino that obviously would be no problem to list (assuming the content was original and not gibberish), but if you had one page of content and 1000 links to your casino that would never be listed. Frankly though I think you are way better off keeping the good content on your casino site. Good luck.

We will list unique online casinos. This is not a particularly easy task because non-unique, affiliate, pseudo-casinos generally attempt to pretend they are stand-alone. You are affiliated with an entity where apparently all the affiliates connect to the same server, have the same odds, and use the same RNG. The Gambling Federation is the unique entity. We certainly can't dig down deep anough with every submission to see if the support and financial processing and bells and whistles of all the software is 100% unique, but we can see that if the Gambling Federation ceased to exist tomorrow, so would your site (and all the other affiliates). This is not true of the sites we want to list, where they do most everything themselves are are not dependent on an affiliate relationship.