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Decius · Mar 21, 2003

Please Note: I submitted these sites ranging from 4-2 months ago, so I am not 100% sure the categories I submitted to are the same I list here.

1)
http://www.undergrounds.com
Submitted to: http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Searching/Directories/
When: Approximately 3-5 months ago
Status: No feedback on submission. Site already exists in Dmoz, but in an incorrect area (site has been changed)

2)
http://www.captaincynic.com
Submitted to: http://dmoz.org/Society/Philosophy/Chats_and_Forums/
When: Approximately 3-5 months ago
Status: No feedback on submission. Site already exists in Dmoz, but in an incorrect area (site has been changed)

3)
http://www.perfectpeople.net
Submitted to: http://dmoz.org/Arts/Celebrities/Image_Galleries/Non-Gender_Specific/
When: Approximately 3-5 months ago
Status: No feedback on submission. Site does not exist in directory.

4)
http://www.gnomenetwork.com
Submitted to: http://dmoz.org/Society/People/Personal_Homepages/
When: Approximately 3-5 months ago
Status: No feedback on submission. Site does not exist in directory.

5)
http://www.selit.net
Submitted to: http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Classifieds/Free_Classifieds/
When: Approximately 3-5 months ago
Status: No feedback on submission. Site does not exist in directory.

6)
http://www.learmedia.ca
Submitted to: http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Entertainment/Recordings/Video/Videotape/Special_Interest/
When: Approximately 3-5 months ago
Status: No feedback on submission. Site does not exist in directory.

I deeply appreciate any feedback on the above sites as I have been waiting very patiently for some sign of them being added, but to no avail.

Decius.

motsa · Mar 21, 2003

1) I didn't see www.undergrounds.com in the queue for Computers/Internet/Searching/Directories but the listing that was under Image Galleries has been moved to unreviewed under Directories. It's waiting with over 300 other sites and it's likely going to be quite a while before it's reviewed.

motsa · Mar 21, 2003

2) www.captaincynic.com is currently listed in Society/Philosophy/Humor -- is that where you're saying it is miscategorized? You say here it belongs under Society/Philosophy/Chats_and_Forums but your update request in the Humor category states you'd like it moved to Computers/Internet/On_the_Web/Message_Boards. Which is it? Personally, I see it as just a subsite of undergrounds.com (UGN network) and therefore not appropriate to list on its own but it's in the queue (along with over 500 sites) of Computers/Internet/On_the_Web/Message_Boards anyway. It's likely going to be quite awhile before it gets reviewed.

motsa · Mar 21, 2003

3) www.perfectpeople.net shows that it was only submitted a month ago (to the day) so I'm guessing you resubmitted at least once. It's there in the queue with under 100 sites. Don't know how long it'll take.

motsa · Mar 21, 2003

4) www.gnomenetwork.com -- submitted to Society/People/Personal_Homepages? I don't know where you actually submitted it but it isn't waiting in Society/People/Personal_Homepages or in Society/People/Personal_Homepages/G . What exactly is it? It looks like a directory of personal profiles, not personal homepages and it definitely isn't a homepage on its own. It is also, like all the other sites you're asking about, firmly meshed with undergrounds.com's content. This site especially is not listable on it's own so I wouldn't bother resubmitting.

motsa · Mar 22, 2003

5) www.selit.net is not waiting in Shopping/Classifieds/Free_Classifieds. I don't know where you submitted it but it wasn't there.

Decius · Mar 22, 2003

Hi Motsa,

I don't really see how any of the sites listed are in any way affiliated with Undergrounds.com except for them being in the same network. Undergrounds.com is a web directory, whereas the rest of the sites are completely unrelated to that.

CaptainCynic is to be in > Society/Philosophy/Chats_and_Forums

Gnome Network is to be in > Society/People/Personal_Homepages
Also, the Gnome Network has a complete online GUI for users to personalize their pages any way they want, and they may create any number of them themselves. I suppose I just have to re-submit it if it isn't even in queue.

Thank you for moving Undergrounds.com for me.

If you could move captain cynic that would be great. I look forward to hearing about the results of the remaining 2 sites.

motsa · Mar 22, 2003

6) www.learmedia.ca is not waiting in Shopping/Entertainment/Recordings/Video/Videotape/Special_Interest . However I can tell now that you must have gotten the IP error message (probably for all your submissions) that states that your IP address couldn't be determined and that the submission was being routed to a holding area. This one is currently waiting for someone to shift it out of the Shopping holding pen into the correct queue.

Decius · Mar 22, 2003

Hi Motsa,

I don't understand what you mean about Learmedia.ca and the IP issue. Why is it in a holding pen? And are you able to move it out of that?

motsa · Mar 22, 2003

CaptainCynic is to be in > Society/Philosophy/Chats_and_Forums

Since there are more than just philosophy forums on the site, it isn't appropriate there. It's waiting in the only place it could be listed.

Gnome Network is to be in > Society/People/Personal_Homepages
Also, the Gnome Network has a complete online GUI for users to personalize their pages any way they want, and they may create any number of them themselves. I suppose I just have to re-submit it if it isn't even in queue.

1. They're not really personal homepages. They're one-page profile pages of UGN members -- if users can create more than one page, I couldn't find any.
2. In order to create a profile, one must first be registered with undergrounds.com. That makes them very intertwined and thus one becomes a subsite of the other.

Feel free to resubmit. It's a gigantic queue, though (several hundred sites) so it's likely to be a long time before it gets properly reviewed by someone.

motsa · Mar 22, 2003

I don't understand what you mean about Learmedia.ca and the IP issue. Why is it in a holding pen? And are you able to move it out of that?

You must have gotten an error message when you tried to submit the site. The error message would have said that it couldn't determine your IP address and that as a result the site was getting routing to a holding pen to be verified and then forwarded to the correct queue. You may have gotten the error for several of your submissions since only 1 of the 6 actually made it through to the cat you said you submitted to.

No, I won't move it out -- I avoid the holding pens because they are too large for my computer to load. It will get moved out eventually.

Decius · Mar 22, 2003

Thanks for the help Motsa. I have re-submitted Selit.net.

I still think that CaptainCynic should definitely belong in the philosophy/chat area since it also has philosphical articles, and many of the forums relate to philosophy even if not literally.

ishtar · Mar 22, 2003

http://www.gnomenetwork.com will not be listed under Personal_Homepages. Please view the FAQ.

Decius · Mar 22, 2003

In retrospect I appologize... I did not realize it did not include listings of personal homepages.

Would it relate moreso to blogs? I've been racking my brain trying to figure out where it should go.

I'll keep looking I guess.

thanks.

Decius · Apr 4, 2003

http://www.learmedia.ca

I submitted to:
http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Entertainment/Recordings/Video/Videotape/Special_Interest

I was told it might be in a "holding" pen of some sort. I submitted this site in late December and received no errors during submission.

If I could get someone to look into it and finally put it in the category that would be great.

kokopeli · Apr 4, 2003

Re: http://www.learmedia.ca

Your site is not waiting in that category. It appears it was caught by the filter and is in the process of being moved to the appropriate category. There is no need to resubmit, it should be moved shortly.

motsa · Apr 4, 2003

Re: http://www.learmedia.ca

See original discussion in original thread.

Decius · Apr 4, 2003

Thanks koko

Thanks Koko... that is pretty much the same response I got originally. I was wondering if you could explain to me why it may have been filtered? I want to prevent this from occurring again so I wanted to get as much info about this problem as I could.

Thanks.

PS: My submission went fine, so the IP problem I heard about doesn't affect this submission, I don't think.

kokopeli · Apr 4, 2003

Re: Thanks koko

I have very limited understanding on this, all I know is what I've read in posts by others--so I could be incorrect in some of what I am going to say (any other editor, please feel free to jump in). ODP is spammed with thousands of sites daily, I imagine this is much like the spam that would go to a hotmail box. I picture this as get rich quick schemes being sent to say Shopping/Gifts/Gift_Baskets for example. If you have a hotmail account, however, you will notice that 95% of the time it filters out the correct spam. However, you can look into that spam box and occasionally you'll find an email that you actually wanted that is legit but ended up there by mistake. I imagine this is one of these cases.

There are around 10 other sites waiting in that category right now, likely the editor will sort by date. It should be sent there soon, and the plus side is that the original date stays there on your original submission. I can see by the editor notes that they were working on it, so it should be sent there soon. <img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" alt="" />

kokopeli · Apr 4, 2003

Re: Thanks koko

Yikes, just noticed motsa caught what I didn't--from now please us the other thread listed above <img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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