A little frustrated, and confused...

I registered my site several months ago and followed to directions exactly.

I assume that in this time, someone must have reviewed my website, though, there's no way I can tell.

I'm struggling to see why it hasn't been listed yet. It's unique content, been well received in the market (with several media articles about it) and at £40'000 worth of eCommerce development would assume it would fit any quality creteria you have. Therefore, I'm a little stumped as to why it's not been included, when i look at some of the other sites that have. Am i missing a trick?

The URL (which I appreciate you'll delete) is: <Your guess is my command: URL removed>
It would fall, i guess, to decsion of editors covering Adult, Visual Art, Shopping, etc.

Can you offer any suggestions to help me get listed??

Thanks for your consideration, and

Very best Wishes,

Mark

Well, the most likely reason it has not been listed is that it has not been reviewed yet.

With only 7-8000 editors to 500,000+ categories, you can see the problem. Of course the editors are not spread evenly over all the categories, so some categories are visited less than others. Shopping is a very spammy area so is somewhat slower than other areas. If you look at our FAQ this will give you more information.

At the moment the site suggestion facility is down, but once it is up, a single resuggestion to the single best category will not be seen as spam.

regards

Thanks for the reply on this.

As soon as the system allowed for submissions again, back in January, I resubmitted the site, again to Shopping/Adult/Visual Arts.

However, I noticed later that at the bottom of this particular section that it advertising for people to "edit this category".

I've seen on several other posts that seeing this at the bottom of any particular category means that there's no editor for that category, and will therefore mean the process will take even longer, if it happens at all? I can tell that this category hasn't been updated for 'a very long time' just by looking at the links contained within it. It's not a good reflection of the current market in my sector.

I'm aware that i can't become an editor as my motives may be seen as scewed, although I could and would do an honest and decent job with this category if that were an option??

Alternatively, do I resubmit to a different category? Obviously, any other category wouldn't be as accurate, but on the other hand it's a little frustrating when you've invested so much time and money into a venture, and you can't get listed on the most influential SEO site because nobody's in the chair to review your submission.

Any advice you could give for me to speed things up, or at least understand when an end's in sight, would be much appreciated.

Mark

There is no legitimate way to speed things up.

Every website owner on the planet thinks that his site is the most important but it can't be true for everybody. Please be patient and devote your energies to other means of promotion.

and you can't get listed on the most influential SEO site because nobody's in the chair to review your submission.

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There's your problem, we're not an SEO site, , that's pretty close to an insult.

It's not a good reflection of the current market in my sector.

I'm aware that i can't become an editor as my motives may be seen as scewed, although I could and would do an honest and decent job with this category if that were an option??

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Being the owner of a site in a category is no barrier to applying to be an editor in that category if you are scrupulous in declaring affiliations. Shopping/Adult would, IMHO, not be the easiest cat to get accepted for even without a relevant site. Both Shopping and Adult are tricky and combining the two...

regards

I've seen on several other posts that seeing this at the bottom of any particular category means that there's no editor for that category, and will therefore mean the process will take even longer, if it happens at all?

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I don't think you can possibly have seen that, since it is not true

I am going to be lazy and link to an older thread with some information about what it actually means when there is no named editor for a category. In addition, there is some information in the FAQ about the same thing. The bottom line being that the presence of a named editor in a category does not guarantee a shorter "waiting time" - and the absence does not guarantee a longer one.

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There's your problem, we're not an SEO site, , that's pretty close to an insult.

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Sorry , think that was maybe a misunderstanding. I know you're not a Search Engine. BUT, you are (by your very impartiality) influential in the world of Search Engine Optimisation. The Search Engines look to you as a guide. So, I think my comment was fair, but apologies if it came across wrong.

Best,

Mark

I was just kidding with you a little, Mark, .

The influence the ODP has, is an indication that it's doing something right, not an indication that it needs to change its kind of service to something else.

If you're feeling that your own work isn't influential enough (and needs promotion), then it might be reasonable to consider whether (1) you're interested in something else rather than influence (which is certainly one reasonable choice), or (2) you're producing the wrong kind of site to gain influence, (which is a choice you made, and you can change) or (3) your goals are too aggressive (which is not in itself a bad thing, but shouldn't be allowed to interfere with the reality that there are other people with different or conflicting goals. And of course, it has nothing to do with any person other than yourself.).

There's no reason to suppose that the ODP should be involved in any of these. An ODP listing is merely an indication that one person thought the site might contain something related to the ODP mission. Lack of an ODP listing is merely an indication that nobody has yet noticed any such content on the site. (Your site suggestion doesn't affect that reality at all: editors review sites, they don't process site suggestions --except as needed to review sites.)

still waiting

hi guys -

this has been something like 12-14 months now, and my site's still not been listed.

could you let me know if it's been reviewed yet please?

thanks,
Mark

I though you'd re-suggested it in January, which would have overwritten any earlier one. That isn't 12-14 months ago.

As you already know, we don't provide individual website status reports here.

Hello again - Happy New Year!

January 2007 (24 months since) I originally submitted to this site. Resubmitted later that year, but has now been a further 14 months since I last inquired about my submission to: Shopping/Adult/Visual Arts

I have to ask... should it really take this long to have a site reviewed? There's less than 12 sites (some defunct) in the category at present. Is anybody actively managing this category?

Could somebody maybe raise this with a section head??

URL again: <url removed>]

Best wishes,

Mark

Could somebody maybe raise this with a section head??

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The majority of the replies you've received have been from editalls and meta editors who are the nearest equivalent I guess.

You might have misunderstood our objectives and how we operate here. ODP is a volunteer organisation building a directory as a hobby. Editors edit where they wish, when they wish and as much as they wish within the constraints of their permissions. We have no schedules or systems to force people to do work that they don't volunteer to do. ODP is not primarily a free listing service for website owners and it does not attempt to process their listing suggestions within the time scales desired by them.

Some volunteer will process your listing suggestion in time but we can't predict who or when that might be. Elapsed times can range from a few days to a few years. There is no need to re-suggest your website and doing so could be counter-productive because a later suggestion overwrites any earlier one.

The answers are still the same.
An editor will look at a suggested website if and when he/she desires to do so.
There is no way predicting when that will happen and which editor will look at the website.

You have done all you can do, and that is suggest a website.
There is no need to suggest it anymore. As you said you have suggested it already twice. So you can be sure that it was received. It will either be listed or rejected and in both cases there is no need for any fruther suggestions.
Time between suggestion and review can vary between a few days and several years. 2 years is not uncommon in some parts of the directory.

BTW
1) why did you include the url again (you did notice that urls will be removed)
2) there is no category Shopping/Adult/Visual Arts in DMOZ

thanks again for your relpies.

my mistake on the category - it was in fact: http://www.dmoz.org/Adult/Shopping/Visual_Arts/

There's actually 10 websites listed in this category.

I posted my URL to encourage you guys (as editors) to have a very quick look at my site. Amongst those 10 websites listed in this section, some actually link through to myspace profiles, others are simply the worst reflection of circa late 1990s sites. If you take two minutes to browse through these links, I guarantee you'll see my point... namely, that:

DMOZ built it's enviable reputation because it was human edited to a very high standard. However, while sections as poorly managed as this are allowed to exist, it does no one any favours - not DMOZ or my industry, for which I'm trying to push the standards forward.

I appreciate that it's staffed with many hard working volunteers, but in the time that we've spent exchanging comments on this thread, this section could have easily been overhauled.

Best,
Mark

but in the time that we've spent exchanging comments on this thread, this section could have easily been overhauled.

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What? I've spent all day editing categories that interest me (which don't include Adult) plus vetted some editor applications and handled a few public abuse reports. I only come here for a break.

Bottom line is that editors do what they volunteer to do, not what you try to volunteer them to do.