a mother site+19 subsites submission.HOW TO DO IT?I NEED HELP!

stefan05

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Hello,

It might be a bit of a stupid question, but I really need some advice!I have a company site company.com which has links to 19 other country sites-www.company.com/it-this is how the italian site looks like.I am using the same domain. I need to submit this site by using an external agency.Do I have to list each one of the country sites as a different domain, or since they are all linked to .com that goes automaticly?What about the keywords?How should I arrange that after I need to have keywords for all the subsites(different languages?, but at the same time I am limited in the number of keywords I can use?I am quite confused with all that.Pls help!!!!
Thanks!
 

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Just submit the root URL and we'll take care of any deeplinks that should be listed.

However, if any of your sections are in a language other than English, by all means submit each language version to the appropriate World category.

There you go - easier than you thought :) .
 

stefan05

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multilingual site subission.

How about the keywords then?I think that I am limited there with the number of keywords I can submit with the site.Is it really as easy as you say?
 

nea

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Read the guidelines that are linked from the "suggest a site" page; they tell you a lot about what we want a site description to look like. For instance:
Descriptions of sites should describe the content of the site concisely and accurately. They should not be promotional in nature. Submitting a promotional description rather than an objective, well written description may significantly delay your site from being listed or prevent your site from being listed at all.
We get a lot of site suggestions where the description consists only of keywords: to make up an example, let's say the ACME Anvil factory suggests a site and enters the description "anvil, anvils, blacksmith, blacksmiths, blacksmithing, tools, smithing, cartoon prop, cartoon props". The editors will probably not be particularly eager to process the site so it will likely wait for some time, and when an editor finally reviews the site s/he will scrap the keywords and describe the site thus: "Anvil factory in South Cottingham, Borks, UK. Site features blacksmith art and a list of cartoons using their anvils."

In short, don't waste time trying to think up what keywords you want. If you write a brief, objective description of what the visitor will find on the site you will likely be reviewed earlier and you may even get listed with the description you wrote (though in 99% of all cases the editor will rewrite the submitted description.)

Also remember that the description must be in the language of the category you submit to.
 

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If you were trying to get water to your chickenhouse, and you saw a solid metal bar lying on the ground, would you first look where it was going, or would you just start trying to figure out how to pump water into it?

Either option would make more sense than trying to feed us keywords. Because we don't do them, and no search engine gets keywords for your site from us anyway.
 

stefan05

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for hutcheson

Hi,

I am not quite sure I understand the thing with the chickenhouse.Do u mean that I just need to submit the mother site(.com) and that's it?No keywords, no seperate subsites submission, no multilingual description?
That sounds really good, but I get different advices all the time.
 

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The "description" should describe the contents of the site -- it should tell what information is on the site.

Do not submit subdomains separately.

If a site has content in, say, four languages (real writing, not Babelfished) -- then submit it to the most appropriate World/Language category for each language, and write the description in THAT language. Make sure anyone can get to their language content from the homepage, without being able to read any other language.

You may get different advice about different things, and from people who know different things, but this advice is advice about the ODP from the people who build it.
 

cowboydan76

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How about this: I have a geocities high school sports site which is already in the directory. This site links to quite a few sub-sites (for each different sport, and for each year that sport's been played, etc) which interlink with each other in various different ways. Some of these sub-pages are under a different geocities account. The other account has no central page to submit and it's entirely subordinate to the one already in the directory. Will all the relevant pages that are linked to by my main page automatically be added to your search engine clients? It doesn't seem so, since most of them (even some under the original geocities account) do not show up on google searches. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 

hutcheson

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If the page that is listed in the ODP, links to all the others (and, of course, you haven't been pulling really stupid technical tricks), then the search engines will find all the pages. (And, of course, if you don't even link to all of your pages, then it's obvious they're not worth linking to...)

We have no "search engine clients." We have only directory clients, some of whom also run search engines on the side. To the best of our knowledge, no search engine is using our data directly, or giving any special attention to our website pages.
 

cowboydan76

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I suppose that means that even if my site is listed with you, it would be a good idea to submit it to search engines like Google, etc?
 

hutcheson

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"Submitting to search engines" as a useful concept pretty well died when the spammers spammed Altavista out of existance. If the site is listed in the ODP (or any other site the search engines already know about), the search engines will find you. If it's not, then -- submittal won't help you.

And, as I say, because of the spammers, it has to be that way. The search engines can't afford to let submittals matter, unless they aspire to a nice headstone beside Excite.
 

stefan05

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maximum number keywords-is there such thing?

Is there any limitation of the number keywords I have to use when I submit my site?In my case I have one mother site .com that is linked to 19 local country sites. So if there's a limit for the keywords is it going to be for the .com or each sub-site will be taken under consideration after it's in different language?Thanx!
 

nea

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Please see Hutcheson's response here. Each sub-site that is in a separate language can be submitted separately to the best category for it. Write a description for each submission. Most descriptions are between 5 and 20 words long. Not keywords, words.
 
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