Hi
First up I'm panhandling for a reliable "heads up" on what I could do to get an Ireland based (although serving international clients too, immigration having become a national sport in Ireland since "THE EVENT") chef's recruitment website (which I just so happen, by complete coincidence, to be involved in) listed on DMOZ. Like every other hapless soul who ever posted here getting listed on DMOZ has now become an ambition which has assumed, in my head at least, dimensions which know no mental boundary. My unreasonable determination to get on DEMOZ now noted I'm resolved to hang on to my remaining scraps of dignity so I won't be holding a pity party (or at least I'll be trying not to), or become a become a pest. I've read the material and if all I get is something along these lines: "Some volunteer will process your listing suggestion in time but we can't predict who or when that might be. Elapsed times can range from a few days to several years." then so be it, I'll just have to live with it. However all this notwithstanding I'll set out my situation in the hope I may glean a useful insight or two.
When I first submitted (I'm omitting the boilerplate snipe about how long ago that was) I submitted to this level of DMOZ: http://www.dmoz.org/business/hospitality/employment/recruitment_and_staffing/recruiters/ I did so for a number of reasons. 1. the website "is" indeed all the following: Business: Employment: Recruitment and Staffing: Recruiters. That describes us perfectly, 2. The very first company on that list does exactly the same things we do, is located in the same city (well they're outside the city somewhat but you get my drift). And, 3. Unlike the previously referenced company we're full members of National Recruitment Federation providing an additional layer, we hope, of vouchiness for our general industry standing. Please note that third comment is not and is not intended to diminish or denigrate the standards of a company I know to be worthy and professional. So that's the guts of my case as to why our business belongs in the same place as theirs. Onwards...
Now, given my general desperation, and in anticipation of someone suggesting that "perhaps that category is without an active editor but to keep my chin up because there's always the chance it will be addressed in time" there are other categories where we could also be listed with relevance, for example here: http://www.dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Ireland/Business_and_Economy/Employment/Recruiters/ because we are indeed all the following things too: Regional: Europe: Ireland: Business and Economy: Employment: Recruiters. Being really desperate we could, with relevance be listed here too: http://www.dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Ireland/Dublin/Localities/City_Centre/Business_and_Economy/Employment/ because the following: Regional: Europe: Ireland: Business and Economy: Employment is a reasonable description of us too and the companies listed there engage in the same activities and have their offices in, roughly, the same location as us. However I'm loath to opt for that category if it takes us out of the first one forever, because really our geographic location is only incidental, most of our business is conducted via the web and phone. Because our systems are cloud based we are often, in reality, operating from different locations and occasionally even abroad.
Yet, it must be admitted that beggars can't be choosers and being located in Ireland (pity party warning) we're certainly the former, so, here are my questions (for those with the forbearance to have read this far):
1. Should I resubmit to another category?
2. Given that we can, with relevance, be listed on at least three categories, that I know of, should I resubmit to all?
3. Should I resubmit to the original category but with a fresh description (notwithstanding the fact that I believe I avoided hyperbole and boastful or promotional language in the original)
4. If someone can confirm that there is an absence of editors on the relevant category should I volunteer to edit?*
5. Notwithstanding the fact that the site in question belongs to a company affiliated with the national industry body of professionals concerned with the activity of recruitment could it be the case that the company, and the site, being relatively new could be going against it in the eyes of DMOZ editors?
6. If the answer to 5 is "YES" then would it help if we immediately booked/bought the domain for the next five or ten years? We're planning to do this anyway but the haste with which this gets done will relate to the answer I get here, assuming I get an answer.
7. Did I miss anything important?
Anyway, I really appreciate anyone making the effort to read this and appreciate even more greatly any answers. In the meantime I better get back to recruiting chefs and I'll just have to hope for the best on DMOZ.
4*Obviously this isn't something I would do without first declaring a personal interest and hence a potential conflict of interest. I've also avoided attempting this because I feel a bit compromised about my motivations and while I'd certainly attempt to be honest and fair in everything I did the fact remains that I work in the industry and could have an interest in holding up a competitor's entry. I like to believe I'm too principled to do that but the fact remains that I'd be in a position where I could.
First up I'm panhandling for a reliable "heads up" on what I could do to get an Ireland based (although serving international clients too, immigration having become a national sport in Ireland since "THE EVENT") chef's recruitment website (which I just so happen, by complete coincidence, to be involved in) listed on DMOZ. Like every other hapless soul who ever posted here getting listed on DMOZ has now become an ambition which has assumed, in my head at least, dimensions which know no mental boundary. My unreasonable determination to get on DEMOZ now noted I'm resolved to hang on to my remaining scraps of dignity so I won't be holding a pity party (or at least I'll be trying not to), or become a become a pest. I've read the material and if all I get is something along these lines: "Some volunteer will process your listing suggestion in time but we can't predict who or when that might be. Elapsed times can range from a few days to several years." then so be it, I'll just have to live with it. However all this notwithstanding I'll set out my situation in the hope I may glean a useful insight or two.
When I first submitted (I'm omitting the boilerplate snipe about how long ago that was) I submitted to this level of DMOZ: http://www.dmoz.org/business/hospitality/employment/recruitment_and_staffing/recruiters/ I did so for a number of reasons. 1. the website "is" indeed all the following: Business: Employment: Recruitment and Staffing: Recruiters. That describes us perfectly, 2. The very first company on that list does exactly the same things we do, is located in the same city (well they're outside the city somewhat but you get my drift). And, 3. Unlike the previously referenced company we're full members of National Recruitment Federation providing an additional layer, we hope, of vouchiness for our general industry standing. Please note that third comment is not and is not intended to diminish or denigrate the standards of a company I know to be worthy and professional. So that's the guts of my case as to why our business belongs in the same place as theirs. Onwards...
Now, given my general desperation, and in anticipation of someone suggesting that "perhaps that category is without an active editor but to keep my chin up because there's always the chance it will be addressed in time" there are other categories where we could also be listed with relevance, for example here: http://www.dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Ireland/Business_and_Economy/Employment/Recruiters/ because we are indeed all the following things too: Regional: Europe: Ireland: Business and Economy: Employment: Recruiters. Being really desperate we could, with relevance be listed here too: http://www.dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Ireland/Dublin/Localities/City_Centre/Business_and_Economy/Employment/ because the following: Regional: Europe: Ireland: Business and Economy: Employment is a reasonable description of us too and the companies listed there engage in the same activities and have their offices in, roughly, the same location as us. However I'm loath to opt for that category if it takes us out of the first one forever, because really our geographic location is only incidental, most of our business is conducted via the web and phone. Because our systems are cloud based we are often, in reality, operating from different locations and occasionally even abroad.
Yet, it must be admitted that beggars can't be choosers and being located in Ireland (pity party warning) we're certainly the former, so, here are my questions (for those with the forbearance to have read this far):
1. Should I resubmit to another category?
2. Given that we can, with relevance, be listed on at least three categories, that I know of, should I resubmit to all?
3. Should I resubmit to the original category but with a fresh description (notwithstanding the fact that I believe I avoided hyperbole and boastful or promotional language in the original)
4. If someone can confirm that there is an absence of editors on the relevant category should I volunteer to edit?*
5. Notwithstanding the fact that the site in question belongs to a company affiliated with the national industry body of professionals concerned with the activity of recruitment could it be the case that the company, and the site, being relatively new could be going against it in the eyes of DMOZ editors?
6. If the answer to 5 is "YES" then would it help if we immediately booked/bought the domain for the next five or ten years? We're planning to do this anyway but the haste with which this gets done will relate to the answer I get here, assuming I get an answer.
7. Did I miss anything important?
Anyway, I really appreciate anyone making the effort to read this and appreciate even more greatly any answers. In the meantime I better get back to recruiting chefs and I'll just have to hope for the best on DMOZ.
4*Obviously this isn't something I would do without first declaring a personal interest and hence a potential conflict of interest. I've also avoided attempting this because I feel a bit compromised about my motivations and while I'd certainly attempt to be honest and fair in everything I did the fact remains that I work in the industry and could have an interest in holding up a competitor's entry. I like to believe I'm too principled to do that but the fact remains that I'd be in a position where I could.
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