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fashezee · May 13, 2004

We have been battling an issue for a few months now with certain editors; in the process, we believe we might have left a bad impression.
As oppose to trying to explain what happen, I would like to focus on what must be done for our site to be re-listed.
What steps must we take to demostrate to Dmoz that any previous actions we performed that went against the guidelines, were totallly unintentional?

Alucard · May 13, 2004

For those interested, the original discussion was at http://resource-zone.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9690

spectregunner · May 13, 2004

and to quote the last message in that thread:

Arguing about the decision here will not help. That is not what this forum is for. It appears crystal clear to me that the decision on the sites is final. You should consider alternative promotion venues.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the editors in this forum -- odds are highly against one of us being the editor that actually reviews your site. We are the bearers of good, and bad tidings.

You know what the rules are regarding the attempt to list multiple sites. You, yourself, identified the problem. What is there to discuss? Our position has not changed one iota.

fashezee · May 13, 2004

Although I do not know the meaning of "iota", I can't imagine it's to my favor.

We are willing to do what it takes to be re-listed in DMOZ. To be banned for life is harsh; especially when all it was all a mis-understanding.

Alucard · May 13, 2004

iota

n 1: a tiny or scarcely detectable amount [syn: shred, scintilla, whit, tittle, smidgen, smidgeon, smidgin, smidge] 2: the 9th letter of the Greek alphabet

fashezee · May 13, 2004

Dam those Greeks! Creating words with little value!

Once a site is banned, is it banned for an eternity?

hutcheson · May 13, 2004

The connection between the two meanings is that iota was the smallest letter in the Greek alphabet (equivalent to our "i", without the dot). Ironically, one of the bloodier theological disputes in the history of Greek Orthodoxy had to do with the semantic difference between two words differing only in the presence or absence of that tiny letter: "homoousion." (The i's lost, the nays won.)

spectregunner · May 13, 2004

Once a site is banned, is it banned for an eternity?

Eternity is a very, very long time.

If a site is declined for listing because it lacks content, the site owners or webmasters can rectify that situation by adding unique content and resubmitting.

If a site is declined for listing because of submitter abuse it can be reconsidered, depending upon the circustances. The concept of a site being banned is alien to me and submitters often (incorrectly) equate unlistable with banned.

fashezee · May 13, 2004

spectregunner said:
The concept of a site being banned is alien to me and submitters often (incorrectly) equate unlistable with banned.

Should I apply for the category I was banned from or should I politely write to the editor that banned my site for and ask for a second chance?

thehelper · May 13, 2004

Neither. The site is not going to be listed period. End of story. My advice would be to pursue other promotional ventures. I highly doubt you are ever going to get a dmoz.org listing. Emailing editors and resubmitting is just a waste of all of our time. I don't blame you for trying but now is the time to give it up. Decision is final. Sorry.

fashezee · May 13, 2004

Branding Breakdown:

Over 12k spent on development
Over 15k spent of marketing
Listed in Yahoo & Business.com directory
2k spent on newsletter advertising

Removed from dmoz and having your domain name tainted because of a "so-called" duplicate site - priceless

Those amounts may not be substantial for you, but on this side it is.
Your going to have to excuse me for pushing the issue, thehelper. If we merited the penalty , I'd walk away quitely and have another 20 sites by now. But given the fact we are not "spammers", we are searching for a reasonable, understanding voice at ODP.

Other Promotional ventures

Of Course, but we all know how important the dmoz link is for a variety of reasons...

thehelper · May 13, 2004

I am sorry. I truly am. The thing about dmoz is this

$0 spent on dmoz - editor time dealing with the number of submissions $0, amount of time spent on deleting your spam submissions for you $0, editor time researching relationships between mirror sites $0 to you, editor time dealing with you on these forums $0, amount of money for you to beg editors to list you $0, and amount of compassion I have for your situation $0.

The fact that I get to say this to you again for free - REJECTED - Priceless

dpacoordinator · May 13, 2004

thehelper I am sorry. I truly am. The thing about dmoz is this

$0 spent on dmoz - editor time dealing with the number of submissions $0, amount of time spent on deleting your spam submissions for you $0, editor time researching relationships between mirror sites $0 to you, editor time dealing with you on these forums $0, amount of money for you to beg editors to list you $0, and amount of compassion I have for your situation $0.

The fact that I get to say this to you again for free - REJECTED - Priceless

READING THIS THREAD --------> PRICELESS!!

Thanks for the terrific word play!

fashezee · May 14, 2004

Everyone's a comedian but no one's got their own TV show though.

dogbows · May 14, 2004

Everyone has a website, but only those that follow the rules get into ODP.

wrathchild · May 14, 2004

dogbows said:
Everyone has a website, but only those that follow the rules get into ODP.

If by "rules" you mean "unique, useful content" then yes, you are correct.

dogbows · May 14, 2004

No, I meant the rules regarding the attempt to list multiple sites, that was discussed earlier in this thread. Did you read the thread, wrathchild, or just my post? If the latter is true, then that's OK. We all know that the ODP editors are not really machines as you would have everyone believe. You're just humans in disguise!

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