After 2 years, Resubmit?

stender

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I'm totally lost with how getting listed on DMOZ works??? I've read all the criteria and have submitted my site www.justegypt.com 3 times in about 8 months and still don't appear anywhere. i've tried 2 different categories too as I thought maybe dmoz weren't happy with my choice? But then you start to worry if dmoz will take that as spamming??
Then I see this post saying they have been waiting 2 years!!! and a reply telling them not to resubmit????

I'm totally lost? As far as I can tell there is no way for me to find out whether my site has been reveiwed, is in a queue to be reviewed, or has been refused??? I can't believe I just have to wait 2 years and see what happens.

Surely it is not too much work to have a topic on here where editors can list a url which they have turned down. A reason would be nice too.
Someone help me please!!!!!!!!
 

stender

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I've looked at the faq section and can't find the answers. All I see is the guidelines for submitting. Then it just says you might get listed in 2 years!
 

motsa

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I can't believe I just have to wait 2 years and see what happens.
There is no way to get the status of your suggestion so all you can do is what you did -- suggest it -- and then forget about it. It may well take 2 years before someone reviews. Then again, it might take 5 minutes from now or 5 years.

Surely it is not too much work to have a topic on here where editors can list a url which they have turned down.
Regardless of whether or not it is too much work, it's not something we will ever do. Period.
 

hutcheson

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Yes, it just says that.

You were thinking someone knew something more than that?
 

hutcheson

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We're not going to lie to you. We will tell you the truth as many times as it takes to sink in.

There is a caveat: first couple of times, we'll try to be relatively gentle: after that, it's possible you'll notice people mounting bayonets on their clue sticks when they see you coming.

I can't believe I just have to wait 2 years and see what happens.

Regardless of whether or not it is hard to believe, it is true.
 

bobrat

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Attitude - I guess so. Question gets asked, we point to the FAQ, you argue that the FAQ does not answer, we say that is the answer. You tell us that's not acceptable - we tell you, sorry, that's the way it is. Then you get upset. Why?

Actually we should get upset with you---

I've read all the criteria and have submitted my site www.justegypt.com 3 times in about 8 months and still don't appear anywhere. i've tried 2 different categories too as I thought maybe dmoz weren't happy with my choice? But then you start to worry if dmoz will take that as spamming?
Yes we will take it as spamming, since you did not read the "criteria" submission/suggestion guidelines, and you submitted to more than one category and and you submitted multiple time. That wastes editor's times dealing with your spam.
 

motsa

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such a nice answer with attitude.
There was no "attitude". I was merely stating the facts. Would you rather I sugar-coat it and make you think we might entertain your suggestion when I know for an absolute fact that we won't?
 

stender

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Having looked at the posts on the forum, it looks like the process needs changing? the forum seems to be full of people like me asking the same questions and getting the same replies from the mods/editors. So I guess there's a lot of stupid people out there, and a lot of mods/editors typing the same answers to the same questions.
I'm not going to argue as i'm in a no win situation and you'll probably just delete my submissions. I'd like the idea of becoming an editor but does that mean I have to post on here?
 

hutcheson

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>you'll probably just delete my submissions.
It's very unlikely that the editor who reviews your submittals will have read this thread, or, having read, would remember. (As you say, there are so many with the same unanswerable questions.)

>I'd like the idea of becoming an editor but does that mean I have to post on here?

Absolutely not! There is very little that an editor HAS to do (except edit occasonally). The rule is: what you do, do well; be fair with your own sites (treat them no better than their competitors) -- and beyond that, whatever good you do is ... good.
 

motsa

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I'm not going to argue as i'm in a no win situation and you'll probably just delete my submissions.
Arguing with us won't get your site suggestions deleted. Could get the thread here locked and/or your member ID here banned, depending on how deadend or rude the arguing got but what happens here is completely separate from what happens in the ODP. :D
 

bobrat

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So I guess there's a lot of stupid people out there...
That's one way of putting, also could be that no-one bothers reading instructions or a large poriont of the propuletion is illitirete.

Based on the heap of suggested sites that I go through, it must be something like that. I spent a lot of time making very clear descriptions of many of the categories where I spend time editing, hoping this would streamline the process. It doesn't work too well.

If a category says "do not suggest a site to this category unless you provde services across more than one country - otherwise submit to the specific state category" why would I keep getting sites for people who only provide services in their small town? I have to shuffle that to the right place and review it later.

If a category for a certain country says "only submit sites in English" and repeats that in the language of the country, why would I get around ten sites a day submitted that are not in English? I have to move then somewhere else for another editor to review - another delay.

This is one reason sites take so long to get reviewed.

If a category says "The title must be entered as your last name, followed by your first name" why do I get sites with titles like The best person to provde entertainment for for your party?

If the category says "Sites will not be accepted unless they clearly state your physical location" why bother to submit the site? - it only ends up gettting deleted.
 

stender

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bobrat said:
That's one way of putting, also could be that no-one bothers reading instructions or a large poriont of the propuletion is illitirete.
lol, I do hope the above was intentional or none of our sites have a hope in hell!!!
 
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Hello everyone. First post here. Wow! What a great forum. I too was amazed at how long my site was submitted without being listed. I just read in another post about most real estate sites being rejected for lack of original content. At the time I submitted my site it was a template site, but I had customized it. I recently dropped that site and went with a new custom site with all original content and resubmitted. I wish I found this forum first because I am not sure if re-submitting was correct. I look forward to reading more posts here and learning more about the ODP. Happy New Year!
john
 

arubin

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Without looking at your site(s). If you revamped your site, you may resubmit, with a notice in brackets, such as
[added original content]
as part of the description. (It would be helpful for you to mention all previous sites you've submitted about the same business.)

...and don't do it (suggest sites without original content) again. :)
 
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