Automatic rejection

Hello,
I suggested a site (in Hebrew) and when I submitted the form I got a message (translated here from Hebrew) that the title or description are in error and that I should rewrite them. The title consists of 2 words which are the site name, and the descriptions consists of 30 words (I tried also 29). I could not find any problem in them (I could miss something of course).

In general, what can cause such an automatic rejection?

I saved the rejected form (add.cgi) as PDF in a thought to upload it to a site and include here the URL - but mentioning here a URL is not allowed. Instead, if somebody wants to look at it I can email it on demand.

Thanks,
Amir

The english rejection page mentions details, the hebrew doesn't do that? Maybe those are not properly translated, I can't easily verify that. I don't speak hebrew, so I don't know which do not apply due to language restriction, but common errors in other languages are:

• URL unreachable
• usage of ALL CAPS
• keyword lists instead of complete sentences
• Repetitions, for example the title repeated in the description

Unfortunately we don't have that document in hebrew, but the editing style guidelines (english) should give you an idea what is considered a good pair of title/description.

The Hebrew error message indeed doesn't mention what could go wrong.
Regretfully it is apparently none of these:

* URL unreachable
I used copy/paste to check the URL (again just now) and it is fine.

* usage of ALL CAPS
No CAPS at all (there are no CAPS or anything similar in Hebrew).

* keyword lists instead of complete sentences
The sentences look to me fine... I can translate them to English in case
anyone would like to help me checking this problem.

* Repetitions, for example the title repeated in the description
The title consists of 2 different words, none of them apeare in the description. In addition, in the description. all the words just happen to be unique (if you wonder how come words like "and" and "the" don't appear more then once, in Hebrew they are an integral part of the words to which they apply, and this thing also makes "repeated" words to appear as unique words). Maybe this uniqueness is the thing that was considered wrong, even though in Hebrew it is totally normal. Should I just make a few intentional repetitions?

I have also read the said guidelines but I cannot see anything that violates them.

Thanks,
Amir

Please be so kind to forward me the complete data you used for your suggestion via PM and I will try to have someone in the internal forum have a look. Sorry for the inconvenience caused by this.

I think the problem is

No CAPS at all (there are no CAPS or anything similar in Hebrew).

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in English the response given is

Bad Title or Description



Please rewrite your site description to fit the guidelines on the submission form. Remember that descriptions should use proper capitalization.

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gimmster said:

I think the problem is
Quote:
No CAPS at all (there are no CAPS or anything similar in Hebrew).

in English the response given is

Quote:
Bad Title or Description

Please rewrite your site description to fit the guidelines on the submission form. Remember that descriptions should use proper capitalization.

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As I said, there are no capital letters in Hebrew (no uppercase/lowercase concept or anything similar). The fact that there are already thousands of sites in DMOZ with a Hebrew title seems to indicate that if a check to require capitalization in a Hebrew title is done than it is a recent bug...

Amir

I'm not really sure what could be going on here, but a couple of thoughts:

1/ Have you tried suggesting the site from a different web browser? It's possible there's some character encoding issue going on so what's being received isn't what you tried to send.

2/ Are you using normal space characters between the words in your description? If not, the system might think that it's all one long word.

Otherwise, I'd suggest taking windharp up on his offer by sending him a private message through the forum software.

FTR: I started a thread in our hebrew forum to ask for more informaton there.

chaos127 said:

I'm not really sure what could be going on here, but a couple of thoughts:

1/ Have you tried suggesting the site from a different web browser? It's possible there's some character encoding issue going on so what's being received isn't what you tried to send.

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I originally tried from firefox 3.0. I also tried from IE7 and the problem is the same.

2/ Are you using normal space characters between the words in your description? If not, the system might think that it's all one long word.

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I originally used cut & paste from a mail message. To be sure that normal space characters are used, I retyped everything from the keyboard (both in FF 3 and IE7) and the problem is again the same.

Otherwise, I'd suggest taking windharp up on his offer by sending him a private message through the forum software.

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(Already done.)

Thanks,
Amir

The issue has been posted on the DMOZ internal forum. No solution yet.

I can't read Hebrew but using an automated translator I see two possible problems.
- the description being to long
- the description having lists of words (but that can be problem of the translation)

Please try again with a smaller description.

pvgool said:

The issue has been posted on the DMOZ internal forum. No solution yet.

I can't read Hebrew but using an automated translator I see two possible problems.
- the description being to long

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As I said in my first post, I already tried with 29 and 30 words, which is certaibly within the limits. In this category there is even a site with 39 words in its description. So according to these two things it doesn't look like I encountered a word count limit.

- the description having lists of words (but that can be problem of the translation)

Please try again with a smaller description.

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This is a dance school that teachs 3 dance types in only 4 cities. Since the web site is relevant only for people that would like to learn these particular dance types and live in these particular cities, I listed the dance types and the cities. Else absolutely most people who would like to learn to dance will have to look at the site pages to find out that this school is not relevant for them.

When I look at the entries of this category, I see other sites also list the dance types, one of them lists 5 (I listed only 3) and also its location... maybe the restrictions were different then, or the problem is totally another one (which I suspect).

To say only "school of dance" without saying which dances and which location seems to me a rather bad description, but if no other choice
I will try that.

Thanks,
Amir

The descriptions you see on listed sites are most probably written by editors and not suggested as such. So they did not have to pass the checks done while suggesting a website.