Can't find my listing

lunaraurora

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Hello, i'm Jeff, admin of <url removed>, our site has been listed on Dmoz more than 2 years in this category :icon_arro /Games/Gambling/Guides/Reviews/ ..unfortunally from a couple of weeks the listing has disappeared, and this is really frustrating for us, since we never broken any rules concerning dmoz or google and we never asked for further inclusions.
I wonder why a site must be removed after a hard-won inclusion without a justification or at least without disclosing a reason to the site's administrator.
 

pvgool

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> I wonder why a site must be removed
There are several possible reasons why a site can be removed
- the site was not available for some time, one of our tools did remove the site from public view for a human editor to check what caused the problem
- the site did not meet out guidelines anymore, either the site changed or the guidelines changed
- the site did not fit the category anymore and it was moved to another category, the site can either directly be listed or it needs a new review in which case it will not be visible for the public
- the site did never meet our guidelines and an editor noticed the previous mistake (he, we are human) and removed it from the directory
There are a few more but these are the most common reasons I can think of.

> after a hard-won inclusion
There are no hard-won inclusion. There are not even won inclusions.

> without a justification
We never provide any justification, except for the publicy availabe guidelines, to list or not to list a website in our directory.

> or at least without disclosing a reason to the site's administrator
We never send any notification to a site owner, not when a site is listed, not when a suggestion is rejected and not when a site is removed from the directory
 

hutcheson

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No puppets here. Everyone's a free observer, and anyone can volunteer to help freely.

No doubt you're used to being sovereign in your own domain. You decide what kind of contributions are accepted and you define how your rules are interpreted. You choose who you'll allow to contribute, and you exercise veto power over those contributions.

Someone else is sovereign at dmoz.org, and we're all guests, subject to their rules.

I don't mind the dmoz.org rules, but many people (some of them good people) do -- for various reasons, some of them good reasons. No problem, there are many other domains to visit -- some of them very good ones.
 

hypercasinos

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We have exactly the same issue with exactly the same category. Our site too was listed in that category for a long time. The site has only grown in content and quality, but it seems the editor is deleting sites from this category without any reason. Or at least without any explanation.
 

pvgool

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As has been written before listings are never removed without a reason and we never give an explanation.
 

makrhod

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it seems the editor is deleting sites from this category without any reason. Or at least without any explanation.
You are entitled to leap to any conclusions you wish, but even a quick glance at earlier posts in this thread would have provided you with a far more accurate idea of why your site might no longer be listed.
pvgool is correct that no explanations are given, but he means to webmasters.
Editors must record their reason for deleting a listed site, and this can be seen by all editors in the directory, so the unjustified deletions you seem to envisage would never go unnoticed.
 

hypercasinos

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lol.. The fact a reason for deletion IS being recorded, but never disclosed to a webmaster makes it even harder to accept.
Anyway, thank for your replies and we'll just try to re-submit again.
 

pvgool

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hypercasinos said:
and we'll just try to re-submit again.
Why? As I said. If a website is removed it is always for a reason (most common one have been provided) suggesting the website again will not remove that reason. The suggestion will be rejected as the reason will still be valid. The only thing that will happen is that you have wasted your and our time.
 

hypercasinos

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So you're saying give up? Site has been deleted and will never be listed again?
I'm not here to waste either my or your time. All I can see is your list of common reasons for deletion and the general guidelines. After having studied both (again), I'm still convinced our site is valid for inclusion.
 

makrhod

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I'm still convinced our site is valid for inclusion.
Of course, and you are entitled to your opinion.
However, it is volunteer editors who decide (based on the guidelines) which sites to list, and when to list them, because the ODP is not a listing service for webmasters.
If you are looking for a listing service which will publish your site based on your opinion of it, there are plenty to choose from, but ODP is not one of them.
 

hypercasinos

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makrhod said:
Of course, and you are entitled to your opinion.
However, it is volunteer editors who decide (based on the guidelines) which sites to list, and when to list them, because the ODP is not a listing service for webmasters.
If you are looking for a listing service which will publish your site based on your opinion of it, there are plenty to choose from, but ODP is not one of them.

So? What's your point? MY opinion is irrelevant?
Thanks, duly noted but not very helpful.
 

pvgool

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In regard to listing a website in DMOZ. Yes. the opinion of the owner of the website is irrelevant.
 
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