Category Suggestion anyone?

Hello there,

I'm hoping to gather some feedback for opinions on category submission for our main website www.sjkenterprises.com. We have a few different websites which are all divisions (or departments if you will) of the single corporate identity SJK ENTERPRISES, LLC. All operate under the same corporate identity and this website is sort of a way to tie them all together into one name and present everything tastefully. I would say that the main market for this site is Internet/Business/E-Commerce/Consulting related; but as you know there are individual categories for each. I've been searching the dmoz off and on for about a month trying to pin down the single best category to submit this website to and I'm a little stuck. The main division of the company is the Hosting Solutions division (hosting/domains), but the main website is marketed toward Consulting, Hosting, Domain Registrations and Office Products. If you take a look at the site, I'm sure you'll formulate your own opinions; hopefully you'll post them here

Here are the Divisions of the company and associated URLs and submitted categories:

Hosting Solutions Division
www.sjkhosting.com
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Web_Design_and_Development/Hosting/S/

The Coffee and Tea Division
www.aromagardenonline.com
http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Food/Beverages/Coffee_and_Tea/

The Consulting Division site is still in development and has not yet been submitted; but submission will most likely be as follows:
www.sjkconsulting.com
http://dmoz.org/Business/Information_Technology/Consulting/S/


I'm hoping someone out there will take a look at the website www.sjkenterprises.com and post some feedback here as to which category they would recommend that I submit to for inclusion. Any feedback would be appreciated.

Usability issues suggest that you don't submit http://www.sjkenterprises.com/ anywhere until it's fixed. Things that look like links that don't go anywhere suggest that the site is still under construction. (Firefox & IE SP2). Being trapped on the About Us page and maybe others is frustrating.

http://www.sjkhosting.com and http://www.sjkconsulting.com should never be submitted anywhere.

http://www.aromagardenonline.com should be fine.

Thank you for taking the time to take a look see jimnoble!

Boy, I'm certainly disappointed that you found the www.sjkenterprises.com website frustrating. Many flash sites are such as this which attribute a sort of modern look that often can be hard to figure out so I can understand where your coming from. It takes a few to figure out, but I personally didn't think it was that bad... Nevertheless, It’s always good to get a fresh perspective on what others in the community think, so your words are greatly valued and appreciated!

I am aware that there are some action scripts in the movie that we left with # urls until www.sjkconsulting.com is completed so that we have correct urls to point to; but there were only a few so perhaps we need to take another look at some of the other elements.

http://www.sjkenterprises.com/ and http://www.sjkconsulting.com should never be submitted anywhere.

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Sorry, that was my typing error. The line should have read

http://www.sjkhosting.com and http://www.sjkconsulting.com should never be submitted anywhere.

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Jim

I'm sure disappointed that our main site www.sjkenterprises.com isn't going to fit anywhere (categorically speaking?)...
I probably shouldn't have mentioned sjkconsulting.com as this site is still in development. I only mentioned it to show an example of what category that this site should fall in to when it is complete which the objective in that was to give a 'sort of' overview of the areas our business encompasses as a whole.

Many flash sites are such as this which attribute a sort of modern look that often can be hard to figure out.

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Then why on earth use Flash, unless your object is to confuse your prospective customer. And I personally avoid reviewing any sites that try to destroy my eardrums.

The object is to create a catchy main website that ties all the others together which also introduces an image for the company as a whole. It’s more for appearances and cosmetics that we decided on flash to create our "image." Products and services are purchased/subscribed to via the aforementioned sites so being clear and concise occurs there whereas flashy and stylish occurs on our main site. Make sense?

bobrat said:

Then why on earth use Flash, unless your object is to confuse your prospective customer. And I personally avoid reviewing any sites that try to destroy my eardrums.

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This editor concurs entirely.

steve123 said:

Many flash sites are such as this which attribute a sort of modern look that often can be hard to figure out.

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Try to think about usability before lookability. The ODP is big on usability. Users are the focus of our efforts.

jgwright said:

Try to think about usability before lookability. The ODP is big on usability. Users are the focus of our efforts.

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Good point. That is one thing I hadn't thought of and I have to agree. This is probably a good reason why I've had such a hard time finding a good category. I'll probably just leave the main site out. Each individual site will have its place where content prevails.

I've corrected my typing error in post 2 and added a note to your post 3 where you quoted it.

I'll probably just leave the main site out.

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Your choice, but http://www.sjkenterprises.com is listable when it's links work and maybe the user hostility is reduced (different editors have different tolerance thresholds and many are on dial up).

Each individual site will have its place where content prevails.

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Apart from the beverages pages, not in our directory it won't . Where a company has spread its website over multiple domains, we generally only list the umbrella one.

jimnoble said:

Your choice, but http://www.sjkenterprises.com is listable

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To which category?

Choose somewhere appropriate within Web_Design_and_Development. If you get it wrong and the site is listable, we'll move it to the right one at review time.

Hello again. Can we revisit this? I decided to go with an HTML version for many, many reasons. Let me know your thoughts on what to do.

Thanks,
Steve

Not much to revisit.

If your site is fixed/finished, submit the root URL. If it is not fixed/finished, submit nothing.

In either event, do not submit your subsites.

spectregunner said:

Not much to revisit.

If your site is fixed/finished, submit the root URL. If it is not fixed/finished, submit nothing.

In either event, do not submit your subsites.

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I guess I don't understand that whole "don't submit the subsites" thing. They're all different.

Gee, I look at Cisco Systems and I see a whole bunch of different sites on the ODP where the root domain is cisco.com. Yet you guys say your policy is not to allow multiple submissions from the same company so I don't understand. These "subsites" as you call them are totally different websites with unique domains that fit in to a unique category.

The policy is not to allow multiple submissions from the same company.

True, but an editor has the discretion to make as many listings as appropriate.

This forum isn't here for arguing about whether or not any particular sites should be listed. This discussion has gone on longer than it should have (and included the publication of confidential internal ODP information) so I'm closing it now. NOTE: this is not an invitation to start the discussion up again in another thread.