Checking on Dried-Flowers-Galore.com

motsa

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It's returning an error message from ArisHost. Having problems?

[edited to add: Ah, you can't give the URL with capital letters like that as your host doesn't recognize it as being valid -- the correct URL is dried-flowers-galore.com. You're in the queue along with under a dozen others.]
 
D

dsdemmin

Wow, you are fast.

Their host was having problems last week (new hardware) but I have been told all is up and running fine. I just checked from here and the site loads fine.

What error message are you getting.

Again thanks for such a quick response.

D. Scott
 

motsa

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Going to Dried-Flowers-Galore.com brings up http://www.arishost.com/dftpages/error404.html which states "HTTP ERROR 404 - Page Not Found - The server cannot locate a document corresponding to the URL your have entered. An improperly typed URL, broken link, or a removed document is usually the cause of this error. Please contact the administrator of the site or page you are trying to visit if you have any questions. "

Going to dried-flowers-galore.com, on the other hand, brings up the site properly.
 
D

dsdemmin

I believe that URL's are not case sensitive. I type in Dried-Flowers-Galore.com or dried-flowers-galore.com and get the same result (the site).

Please correct me if I am wrong (regarding case sensitive). Which then begs the question why you would be getting a 404 error. Does not make sense.
 

This is what happens when you use the upper case URL:

URL = http://Dried-Flowers-Galore.com
FMT = AUTO
REQ = GET
Sending request:
GET / HTTP/1.0
Host: Dried-Flowers-Galore.com

• Finding host IP address...
• Finding TCP protocol...
• Binding to local socket...
• Connecting to host...
• Sending request...
• Receiving response...

Total bytes received = 563
Elapsed time so far: 1 seconds
Header (Length = 256):
HTTP/1.1·302·Found(CR)
(LF)
Date:·Fri,·14·Feb·2003·22:12:01·GMT(CR)
(LF)
Server:·Apache/1.3.19·(Unix)·mod_perl/1.26·PHP/4.0.6·FrontPage/5.0.2.2510(CR)
(LF)
Location:·http://www.arishost.com/dftpages/error404.html(CR)
(LF)
Connection:·close(CR)
(LF)
Content-Type:·text/html;·charset=iso-8859-1(CR)
(LF)
(CR)
(LF)

Content (Length = 307):
<!DOCTYPE·HTML·PUBLIC·"-//IETF//DTD·HTML·2.0//EN">(LF)
<HTML><HEAD>(LF)
<TITLE>302·Found</TITLE>(LF)
</HEAD><BODY>(LF)
<H1>Found</H1>(LF)
The·document·has·moved·<A·HREF="http://www.arishost.com/dftpages/error404.html">here</A>.<P>(LF)
<HR>(LF)
<ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.19·Server·at·Dried-Flowers-Galore.com·Port·80</ADDRESS>(LF)
</BODY></HTML>(LF)

Done
Elapsed time so far: 1 seconds

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whereas the lower case version is


Sending request:
GET / HTTP/1.0
Host: dried-flowers-galore.com

• Finding host IP address...
• Finding TCP protocol...
• Binding to local socket...
• Connecting to host...
• Sending request...
• Receiving response...

Total bytes received = 16728
Elapsed time so far: 0 seconds
Header (Length = 296):
HTTP/1.1·200·OK(CR)
(LF)
Date:·Fri,·14·Feb·2003·22:18:48·GMT(CR)
(LF)
Server:·Apache/1.3.19·(Unix)·mod_perl/1.26·PHP/4.0.6·FrontPage/5.0.2.2510(CR)
(LF)
Last-Modified:·Sat,·08·Feb·2003·05:33:32·GMT(CR)
(LF)
ETag:·"e37203-4030-3e4496ac"(CR)
(LF)
Content-Length:·16432(CR)
(LF)
Accept-Ranges:·bytes(CR)
(LF)
Connection:·close(CR)
(LF)
Content-Type:·text/html(CR)
(LF)
(CR)
(LF)
followed by the page contents
---------------------------------------


However using IE6 or Netscape 7 the url seems to get converted to the correct lower case url automagically. It may be a browser compatability problem.

To see what a generic query looks like use Rex Swains http viewer at http://www.rexswain.com/httpview.html

<img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />
 
D

dsdemmin

Wow. I learned something new tonight. Older versions of Netscape are case sensitive with regard to URLs.

With that said, can I check on dried-flowers-galore.com.

Thank you.
 

motsa

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[I'm using IE 5.1 on a Mac and this is the only site I've ever come across that was sensitive about the case in the URL -- it has to be something on the server side that is incompatible with some browsers]

If you look at my first post, you'll see that I said that the site (in all lower case) was waiting in the queue along with under a dozen sites.
 
D

dsdemmin

I missed that post, sorry.

I do have an email off to the server host asking if they can help.

I have never come across that either (but I am partical to Explorer). I just spent the last hour reading on the topic ... it is not unique and URLs are indeed case sensitive.

Thank you again for you very quick responses ... impressive!
 

motsa

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In my experience, though, I've never had that problem with root domain URLs (only with specific pages on a web site where, yes, case is extremely important), not even with my own sites. For example, http://ACOUNTRYPRACTICE.COM , http://AcountRyPraCTice.cOM , and http://acountrypractice.com all bring up the same page (even using Rex Swain's viewer). Weird but I'm sure your host techies will come up with something. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />
 
D

dsdemmin

They just sent me this:

Hi,

URLs shouldn't be case sensitive. Our servers are configured to translate all domain
names into lowercase before it proceeds. But if you are trying to access a file directly
using a URL, you need to make sure that the file being requested has the correct case.


I emailed them back asking them to test it for themselves and see why their configuration is not working. Weird.
 
D

dsdemmin

It has been another two months and I still do not see dried-flowers-galore.com listed. Am I still in the queue?

Thank you.

D. Scott
 

Sorry, but there's no news on the site - it's still waiting as noted in the second post. It appears no one has gotten to it yet.

Have you thought about applying to be an editor? <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />

http://dmoz.org/Arts/Crafts/Wildcrafting/ looks to be the right size for a new editor, it also seems the best fit for your site - it doesn't belong in shopping as it doesn't sell things (Shopping sites must have product details, prices, a way to order [mail/email/shopping cart/fax], and deliver either internationally or the the contiguous USA)

Sorry I don't have better news.
 
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