corrupt dmoz editor

stevebee

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Hello,
I have come across a person who has got every website he has ever made, listed in dmoz. Not just the once, he has listings for sites he owns listed in many categories and that includes categories not relevant to the subject his website is about. He is always listed close to the top even when a category has many thousands of listings. One of his websites is listed in more than 10 categories.
I know there is foul play going on. He is either an editor or knows an editor that is listing his sites.
Please help. Who can i trust to investegate this problem. I have tried the dmoz complains form to report a corrupt dmoz listing but the form seems not to work.
Any help,suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Am i right in thinking that a website is only allowed to be listed in one category on dmoz.
Thanks
Steve
 

jimnoble

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Please PM me the your evidence and I'll take a look. I need URLs and any other details.

He is always listed close to the top
Our categories are listed in alphabetical order and this cannot be adjusted by an editor.

Am i right in thinking that a website is only allowed to be listed in one category on dmoz.
No. Websites shouldn't normally [1] be suggested to multiple categories but some such as IMDB can be deeplinked by editors.

[1]Multi lingual websites can be listed in each language. Sites with Regional and Topical significance can be listed in both.
 

stevebee

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Hello Jim,
I have sent you a PM
Thankyou for taking the time to look into this
Steve
 

jimnoble

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Thanks for the 5 URLs. This is where I've got to.

Our records show that each is listed in the same appropriate Topical category with no deeplinks or extra listings in any other category. They were all listed on widely separated dates by an ex-editor who was named to that category at the time. In short, if the sites are unrelated, he was simply doing his job.

One of those sites is registered at Nominet (UK registrar) as a 'a non-trading individual' and so probably doesn't belong in a commercial category.

Several of the others are registered to the same web development company, but that practice isn't uncommon in the UK and doesn't necessarily prove that they're all part of the same organisation. I'll be checking that out in more detail but there are web developers that target niches you know.

My broadband is being upgraded during Monday (they say) and could drop out at any time. I'll pick this up again on Tuesday assuming it's working. In the meantime, please PM me with the reasons that you believe that all 5 are related.
 

stevebee

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Hello and thanks for the reply,
Some of the same domains i have named have been placed in more than 10 different categories, if you read the submission guidlines then you will see this is against dmoz.org policies... I quote
"Step Three
Identify the single best category for your site. The Open Directory has an enormous array of subjects to choose from. You should submit a site to the single most relevant category."
Now one of the domains is placed in a category all on its own, then is also placed in more than 10 other categories. Are you telling me that an editor has not done the basics of checking to see if a domain is already listed before he lists the domain. Or are you saying that this is acceptable.

Please also condiser these points -
how can one person have 5 of his domains listed in one single category, yet others that have submitted their site get no listing.
How can he have a site at number 11 in a category with over 53,000 enteries yet the domain name was only registed in 2009. (This category is not listed in alphebetical order as you suggest they should be, so i assume that they must have been listed first come first served. Therefore someone has been given preferential treatment)are you telling me that the editor reviewed over 50,000 domains.
In all the categories he is listed on the first or second page.

I smell a rat
There are many other questions i would like answered

Thankyou
 

jimnoble

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Some of the same domains i have named have been placed in more than 10 different categories

That's not true of any of the examples that you sent to me. If some third party website is claiming that, it's wrong.

This category is not listed in alphebetical order as you suggest they should be, so i assume that they must have been listed first come first served. Therefore someone has been given preferential treatment

You should look at our category. Downstream data users might choose to sort it differently but we have no control over that.

You can assume whatever you wish but it contradicts what I've already told you and doesn't help the progress of this investigation. Neither does trying to work with innuendo and incomplete information.
 

stevebee

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Hello,
I think this has been my mistake. The listings are showing many times because they are showing for search terms and not per category. So if you search for different words then the domains come up many times, giving the impression that they have many listings but actually there is only one listing but placed in many categories when searched for different terms.
Thanks for taking the time to investegate Jim. Respect to you..

It's restored my faith in Dmoz.org
I appologise for the mistake

Steve
 

Fred77

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Several of the others are registered to the same web development company, but that practice isn't uncommon in the UK and doesn't necessarily prove that they're all part of the same organisation. I'll be checking that out in more detail but there are web developers that target niches you know.

That is suspicious to say the least. There are thousands of web companies in the UK, and if a list of sites comes up with exactly the same backgrounds, it cannot be a coincidence. All odds are against it.
I'm quite interested, what came out of your investigations, Jim?
 
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