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Hi
How long does it take before you remove your marked files against a Domain and treat the domain as a new entity?

How did you go with your threat of legal action against DMOZ?

To answer the question Steve:

In your case, until we receive instructions from AOL's legal department telling us to do so (or not as the case may be). This shouldn't be news to you because you've been told so previously.

so are you saying that i have to get in touch with aol legal team and get them to remove marked files?

Any response as i would like to clear this mess up. jim if you are going to refer past threads then please put a link in your post cheers.

You threatened legal action. Once you threaten legal action, we are required to not touch your site unless informed by AOL legal that the matter has been cleared up.

Great stuff, getting somewhere. Do you have an email address to which i can contact for aol legal and a contact admin for this forum and ill get on to it straight away, my mistake and ill endevour resolve it. If point me in the right direction, if you want, so it doesnt go public, you can pm the relevant emails.

i await your response

cheers

great stuff, Do you have a name / tel number.
And whats the best email admin contact for you.

The only contact information we have for AOL legal is what is found on the link that jimnoble provided. I am afraid that the volunteer editors have no control over AOL staff or their contact information.

And whats the best email admin contact for you.

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Please do not contact any of the forum administrators or moderators here regarding this. If AOL legal has something to pass on to the ODP regarding your sites, they will do so through ODP staff.

Could you also confirm exactly what they(aol legal) have to do so that we miss nothing.
Could you also give me the link in your t & c's that says once legal has been mentioned that you as editors must then not pass comment or consider the site in question until resolved.

I am not an editor, so I can talk to you. Would you expect any site to put a link on it to your site after you threatened them? Why are you expecting DMOZ to do so?

Editors, themselves, don't engage in revenge. Our first and only consideration is whether a site has the unique content that would make it a valuable resource in a particular category for the web surfer.

The legal issues are a seperate matter that we have nothing to do with. I would imagine that once those are cleared up, the site would wait right along with all other site suggestions, for review and consideration by an editor in that area, .

That might take days or it might take years, just as it would for any site suggestion.

Clearly 'birdie' you have not done any full background research into this issue.
however in brief:
Site was listed in dmoz, site had not changed upon being accepted to removal. (yes, i agree that you can change your terms without notice)
This site was then removed i think in 04 and i asked why but did not get a definitave answer, however i was told that there was not enough content on the site, fair enough i accept that one, i pointed out a site that there was listed in what was my category did not have anything substantial on it so why was it there, and its still there? Could my site have been removed by an editor with similar interests? (Its a fair argument)
I was also told that i was spamming the categories of the ODP attemting to have more than one listing. I aksed ODP to prove this yet no evidence has come forward, i have read many articles that back then and even now it could have been a competitor doing it to get me removed, given the sites growth at that time, thats my best hunch, because it did not do it? (Again Fair Argument)
To pre empty any extra reasons that you come up with that i can think off is that i have other relates sites (sister sites) to which you have mentioned, there is nothing wrong with this practice as there are plenty of others out there that do the same and are listed in your directory, you just havent found them, i have. What made it worse it that my sister sites were not listed in the ODP directory, so why reference them?
I`m sure you must now understand my frustration

Because so many people jump in and stick in thier 2 pennies worth like a pack of wolves and then close the thread at the crucial time things got heated and i said something stupid and i appologise and will act to resolve this.
I have to ignore the second reason for removal as thats out of my control, but will the ODP?. I have worked on the content, Its not the best site out there buts it a mile better than it was and is better than a load of those that are listed in the ODP now.
Anyway your comments are always welcome birdie or anyone.

I just want to resolve the issue

I can see why it's an AOL legal matter, I will have no more comments about it, other than the general comment I just made about our general view of things.

Its been 2 days now and no response, cant you guys remove past history?

No.

Please do not further engage us in this forum until you have successfully resolved the issue of your legal threats.

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Its been 2 days now and no response, cant you guys remove past history?

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Once legal action has been indicated, the editors will not be able to comment or take any action on the related situation. So as spectregunner has stated, "No" we cannot remove past history.

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Could you also confirm exactly what they(aol legal) have to do so that we miss nothing.

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The editors have no knowledge of what actions are required and/or undertaken by AOL or its legal department. So its impossible for any of us to answer that question. The editors cannot become re-involved until after AOL staff notifies them that all legal matters have been cleared up to their (AOL) satisfaction.

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Could you also give me the link in your t & c's that says once legal has been mentioned that you as editors must then not pass comment or consider the site in question until resolved.

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There may be more than one guideline that applies in cases of legal matters, but for me the Guidelines on Communication are clear:

guidelines said:

Occasionally, it may be necessary to communicate with a submitter about a Directory listing. Under no circumstances should you represent in any communication to a submitter that you are speaking for or on behalf of ODP staff or Netscape.

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Legal issues are a matter for AOL/staff. The editors cannot speak or act on behalf of AOL legal, therefore once the threat of legal action has been made it effectively removes the volunteers from the mix.

I asume that the site in question may take until im 60 to resolve can i submit an alternative related one of my sites in its place?