DMOZ does a little spring cleaning...

Impact

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Hello All,

I am writing to ask the DMOZ guys some questions that I haven't been able to find answers to.

I have a website that was very recently removed and I am just wondering; does DMOZ regularly check categories to remove/update websites or does DMOZ have a way of telling when a site has changed DNS, updated or change ownership?

Any help would be much appreciated...

Regards,
Impact
 

musicman2059

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Every once in a while, you might find that an editor "cleans up" a category (i.e., organizing it, checking URLs for redirects, broken links, etc...). However, we also have a link-checker that gets run every once in a while that finds URLs that no longer work.

It, however, does not detect changed URLs. That is up to the editor to find.
 

Impact

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Hello Musicman,

I understand... My link may have been unavailable at the time of checking since we have had server problems in the past few days, although the category that my site was listed in had no category editor as such.

Would you suggest that I request a status request to see why exactly my website was removed from the directory? I would really like to get this website listed again as it is a seasonal site that is due to flourish in the next month.

Thank you kindly again.

Impact
 

hutcheson

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To answer the original question: the short answer is: an editor doesn't ever need a stimulus to re-review any site, but may be stimulated by any number of things. I've found bad links when I was simply using the directory to look for content. And every single user is welcome to be a volunteer quality control inspector. For quality control, there is nothing better than that: lots of human eyes, neurally linked to editors or other surfers that demand quality links. So if you're trying to figure out how to slip a hijacked or bait-and-switched website past our inspectors, there's not a reliable way. And if you're wondering whether we've found some other dis-informationalized site: maybe or maybe not, but we will appreciate your mentioning it to us.
 

Impact

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Bobrat - that is another site that I am managing too, but no this isn't the site that was removed this time :)

Hutcheson - I have higher morals and standard than to hijack or bait-and-switch a website past your editors. I know that your editors are of a higher calibre than that.

I was simply fishing for an answer as to why my website was removed without having to request the status of a domain. You see I recently changed the NameServers for this domain and it must of been a coincident that my site was also removed around the same time.

Again this site is a clean site, not spammy that does offer authority content that has been removed from the DMOZ directory. I fear that my site was removed for either the site being down at the time of the link checker or the site was under construction at the time of the editor re-viewing since we are gearing up for the new content for this year.

I look forward to hearing from you as I would really like to get my site back into the directory.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Regards,
Impact
 

spectregunner

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Go ahead and ask in the correct forum.

If the reason is "mechanical" (server down, won't load, under construction) we will generally share that information.

If the reason is policy ( if despite your apparently pleasant personality, you are really an insidious spammer ) then we won't tell you very much.
 

Impact

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Hey Spectre,

Thank you for your advice once again... These forums really are a great help, I have learnt so much and have no regrets on joining.

Regards,
Impact
 

hutcheson

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We don't ask editors their motives every time they do an edit. We only ask that what they do conform to the letter of the ODP guidelines and the spirit of the ODP mission. So the answer to that question simply isn't available.

The editor reviewed a site -- that's what editors do! The editor thought the site shouldn't be listed in its current state -- that's the kind of judgment editors exercise. I presume you've resubmitted, which makes the site very visible to someone who wants to review and judge that kind of site.

It is hard for someone who hasn't worked on a collaborative public-service information project to realize just how different our management is. Normal corporate management focuses on TIME management to the virtual exclusion of all else. These volunteer projects don't do time management at all. At all. Virtually all the management we do is "QUALITY ASSURANCE management" -- which is no concern whatsoever of the typical corporate management hierarchy: it's shuffled off into a separate but low-level department.

So the typical management questions (why haven't you done this? why did you do that? when will you do the other thing) we don't ever ask and can't ever answer. About all we ever ask is, "do you see why it was wrong to do that, and can you avoid doing it again?"

This kind of thinking is completely alien to many people who've been trapped in the corporate world too long; but it is not at all unique to the ODP. Do you see Project Gutenberg promising which 3000 books they'll release in the next 12 months? Wikipedia giving a list of errors fixed in the past month, and announcing that the next error fixes will be Tuesday after next? Linus Torvalds announcing that he's going to release Linux version X.Y.Z in 2008, and then releasing something else in 2010 and calling it the same release number? Longhorn, pronghorn!) That's time management, and the first simple fact is, the only thing you can produce on schedule is excrement. (Just slop the pigs, and set your watch!)

And the second simple fact is, volunteers are self-motivated. Or they're not volunteers. So the open-participation model just works. Linux gives Gates the willies: and no wonder. Project Gutenberg, which has a community much smaller than ours, is still the largest book publisher in the world (measured either by its current or new offerings.) The ODP is twice the size of any of its older competition. Wikipedia shames Encarta eleven ways from Sunday in scope, comprehensiveness, and accuracy. (OK, you say that's about as faint as praise can be: well then, it also frequently beats Encyclopedia Britannica online.)
 

jjwill

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hutcheson, please hurry up with your answers, and get back to editing. Really, you have deadlines to meet, you know. You can't keep those webmasters waiting. :rolleyes:
 
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