Dutch website went down - Can we get it back

disklabs

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My site was listed on the OD, however, during a transition, somehow, the site went down for a period of about a month. Its now up and running again, however, the listing for it on the OD has been removed.

Can you please let me know what to do about getting it relisted?

Many thanks,

Simon

FYI, the site is <URL deleted>
 

jimnoble

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Being a subsite of a different URL (twice listed) it should never have been listed at all.

As you're already well aware, because you and I have discussed this previously, that a website is spread over multiple domain names doesn't make it eligible for multiple listings.
 

disklabs

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Jim,

Here we go again....

As the guidelines state, different languages, different listings.

Never mind.

double standards as ever....

Simon
 

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I've merged your xx00333 account into your disklabs one - multiple personas aren't allowed in this forum - or any other AFAIAA. Do not create any further accounts here.

I note that, as xx00333, you had earned yourself a lifetime ban for bad behaviour but I'll let that pass for the moment.

Finally, I urge you to read our suggestion guidelines yet again. They forbid the suggestion of related URLs. Where a website is multilingual, we list the root in each corresponding World category and rely upon its own language selector.
 

disklabs

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Jim,

The lifetime ban was from when you accused me of applying to be an editor in both the UK and the US at the same time. This was not the case. I applied in the UK, my brother in the US applied to become an editor over in the US. I provided you proof of this, but you were not interested, you simply shut down the thread.

As per my earlier thread, nothing changes.

I may come back to the forum in the future, but we both know, its not worth it as its rules for one, and not for all.

Simon
 

caprichoso

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disklabs said:
Jim,
Here we go again....
As the guidelines state, different languages, different listings.
Never mind.
double standards as ever....
Simon

Simon,

You are right. Every DMOZ rule is switched backwards when needed by an editor. And everything is about being grounded as if they were your parents.

It's interesting that you got banned for applying for editor multiple times. No matter it was your brother if they didn't know it. He could just close one of your submissions. Or even both of them. But no, you get banned for life for being a bad boy.

It's the same about URL submission. You are unable to know if your URL was already submitted. And better you don't even think about sending it twice. You will never get listed. As it happened with your applying.

Of course it would be simpler and better ignore any URL submitted more than once (let's talk about the same URL). But instead you get a sadist mechanism by which you can hurt yourself.
 

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As you cannot possibly be aware of the facts, and as you apparently did not read the foregoing posts properly, comments such as the above are not only rude and unhelpful, but very misleading.
 

pvgool

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People do only get banned on R-Z for actions they do on R-Z. Not for something they do on other sites (inlcuding DMOZ).

People and websites get banned on DMOZ for actions they do on DMOZ, not for things they say on R-Z.

There is one exception: Offer a bribe anywhere (on or off the net) to a DMOZ editor and you and all of your websites will be banned on DMOZ and R-Z.
 

pvgool

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caprichoso said:
It's the same about URL submission. You are unable to know if your URL was already submitted. And better you don't even think about sending it twice. You will never get listed. As it happened with your applying.

First of all
As you could have read on many of the threads. You can not submit an url. You can only suggest a website. There is a big difference between "submit" which implies some sort of service from DMOZ towards the person submitting and "suggest" which only means that we will eventualy look at it and decide for our self if we want to do something with the suggestion.

Secondly
Only you can know if you suggested a website before. Suggestions from other people for the same website are no problem. Even suggesting a site twice by the same person will not be a problem. As you easely could have known as it is mentioned many times in other threads.
Suggesting a listable site many times to the same category is no problem for DMOZ but chances that there will be a large time between review and first suggestion is high.
Suggesting an unlistable site many times is a problem and might result in a ban.
Suggesting a listable site to many different categories is a problem and might result in a ban. But even in such cases the site probably will be listed once.
 

caprichoso

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pvgool said:
First of all
As you could have read on many of the threads. You can not submit an url. You can only suggest a website....

Secondly
Only you can know if you suggested a website before. Suggestions from other people for the same website are no problem. Even suggesting a site twice by the same person will not be a problem. As you easely could have known as it is mentioned many times in other threads.
Suggesting a listable site many times to the same category is no problem for DMOZ but chances that there will be a large time between review and first suggestion is high.
Suggesting an unlistable site many times is a problem and might result in a ban.
Suggesting a listable site to many different categories is a problem and might result in a ban. But even in such cases the site probably will be listed once.

First of all, you can swap "URL" by "website" in my previous message if you want to.

Secondly, if you read across this whole forum you can see editors telling how bad submitting your site more than once is. I guess every editor has its own concept about submitting a website twice.
 

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makrhod said:
As you cannot possibly be aware of the facts, and as you apparently did not read the foregoing posts properly, comments such as the above are not only rude and unhelpful, but very misleading.

As far as I can see Simon said he got a life-time ban for applying for editor under two different categories. It was an answer to Jim who already mentioned the ban.
Almost twelve hours later I read the post. Jim didn't posted again to deny what Simon said. I give Simon the benefit of the doubt. I'm not surprised at all with Simon's story, sounds very familiar here.

I apologize for my lack of understanding of English language.
 

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"caprichoso" said:
As far as I can see Simon said he got a life-time ban for applying for editor under two different categories.
That's not at all what happened and Simon has at no time ever said that it did.

"caprichoso" said:
Jim didn't posted again to deny what Simon said. I give Simon the benefit of the doubt.
Surprisingly to most here, I'm not sitting at the keyboard 24/7 and I've spent most of the day with my family.

I can't understand why you're commenting about a historical situation that has nothing to do with you and which you know nothing about. You wouldn't want us to think that you're a troll so please desist.

"caprichoso" said:
I apologize for my lack of understanding of English language.
Indeed.

<In joke to some> At least Mrs Trellis hasn't been mentioned yet :).
 

caprichoso

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jimnoble said:
That's not at all what happened and Simon has at no time ever said that it did.

disklabs said:
Jim,
The lifetime ban was from when you accused me of applying to be an editor in both the UK and the US at the same time...
Simon

jimnoble said:
I can't understand why you're commenting about a historical situation that has nothing to do with you and which you know nothing about. You wouldn't want us to think that you're a troll so please desist.

I'm commenting about a post in this thread posted August 8, 2009 09:11 AM. Is there any rule against commenting or posting in other users' threads?

I would like to think of my self as a dwarf rather than a troll.
 

pvgool

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jimnoble said:
<In joke to some> At least Mrs Trellis hasn't been mentioned yet :).
I’m sorry, I haven’t a clue
what you are talking about. :D
Luckely we have Google to find the clue .... :lightbulb
 

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At least Mrs Trellis hasn't been mentioned yet
That redoubtable North Welsh woman deserves to be mentioned as often as possible. One of the world's great correspondents. :D
 
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