Editor rejects competitor's site

peppos

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What i should do? It's so unfair spending money and time for a website and get rejected because the editor considers you as a competitor. I've used the abuse report form but nothing happened. Never got a reply from someone else, only from the editor.
 

pvgool

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How do you know that your website got rejected?
How do you know it is a specific editor that rejected your webiste?
Or are you just guessing that just because a website is not listed yet it must have been rejected and the editor must be a competitor.

Be sure that each abuse report will be looked at by senior editors and if abuse is found they will take actions.
 

EricLostEric

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Be more patience. Be sure DMOZ is an equitable Organization.What's we participants need to do is know all it's rules about the applicant site

To be honest,I have cost 2 days to check and modify my website as I saw DMOZ is not friendly with the site with dead link.

And I don't know if I will do other modifications,as DMOZ only permits one-time submission.

Good luck to all we competitors!
 

peppos

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I know it has been rejected as the editor informed me after i asked. The reason is because one of the (3) conditions did not pass.


The conditions are (translated):

Please add websites with useful content. Websites which ONLY have affiliate links, or they are just mirror, or just redirecting, will be rejected.


It is true that the website has many affiliate links, but taht's not the only content! It provides very useful information and we believe that we've done a professional job. Many visitors and partners gave us a credit for our site. Also we got pagerank 2 in six months which i believe is because of the quality of our work.


The excuse about the affiliate links is just an excuse. I'm sure the only reason is that the editor owns a similar website (which by the way is listed - what a suprise!) and doesn't want to add other competitors.
 

gloria

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The ODP looks for sites with unique content. Affiliate content is not unique. Editors have to be able to find the unique content and it has to be enough unique content to be listed. And ODP requires a fair amount of unique information. The Guidelines have specific information - http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html#notinclude

An abuse report is only visible to senior editors. And numerous senior editors look at each report. If you included your URL in the report, they also looked at your site to see if it contained sufficient unique information to be listed.
 

peppos

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So if you are looking for unique content you should have one site for eash category. Two sites with the same subject is pretty much obvious they are going to have very similar content. The difference is the way that each site displays the content, and that's probably what you mean unique(?).
 

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So if you are looking for unique content you should have one site for eash category. Two sites with the same subject is pretty much obvious they are going to have very similar content. The difference is the way that each site displays the content, and that's probably what you mean unique(?).

There are many different ways to have unique content. But all of them really boil down to the same thing.

Every website is PERSONAL. MY website represents what I have experienced and learned, what I have done, and will do (for money, or for the love of it). It can be unique because my person and my history are unique, and it will be unique if I use it to express the uniqueness in my person or history.

The same principle applies to artist sites--and fan sites, political and religious and ethnic sites, professionals' and amateurs' sites, church and school and charity and business sites.

It's all personal. It's always personal.

So what of you is expressed on your website? And I don't mean "you chose your favorite color for the background." I don't mean the website style at all. I mean the information contained on the website.

And ... can the reviewer find that personal expression? Or is it hidden behind all the things that the website wants "you" (i.e. the impersonal surfer) to do? Because the only "person" expressed on the website is one that wants to be paid for marketing effort?

Short rule of thumb. "I'm going to hell", "I've been to hell and it was bad", "Offering tours of hell for money" -- all unique, because nobody else knows that corner of hell like you do. "Go to hell and tell them I sent you, you will like it, there are all sorts of interesting experiences, and Satan is offering me referral fees" -- not unique.

Bad cess to all competitors. The websites worth listing have NO competitors.

Joes-plumbers.com is unique. It has no competitors. Joe may well have a dozen competitors in his neighborhood alone, not to mention plumbers who (for a sufficient fee) will drive from another city. But the WEBSITE has no competition because no other website on earth can tell exactly what Joe and his hirelings can do, and what they would do for money.

That's very simple, I think. Whether any particular person wants to create such a non-competitive site is another issue. There's no law saying anybody has to. Many people don't bother.

The ODP is looking for the ones who do care.
 

gloria

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peppos said:
So if you are looking for unique content you should have one site for eash category. Two sites with the same subject is pretty much obvious they are going to have very similar content. The difference is the way that each site displays the content, and that's probably what you mean unique(?).
If I'm building a restaurant category in my hometown, each local restaurant has its own unique site. It may have the history of the restaurant or the owner/chef, the menu, pictures of the restaurant, testimonials, etc. Each one is unique. The way that each site displays the content doesn't make any difference, as long as it can be navigated. There are some very ugly personal sites with marvelous unique content.
 

peppos

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OK i see what you mean. So the design doesn't count at all... But that's not the reason i believe my website should be listed. Some kinds of websites doesn't have any actual content, if by content you mean text. Is more like services rather than content . For example, my website provides information and data mostly about football betting (odds related, results, fixtures, rankinks, previews, news, competitions and more). I believe that a visitor could spend much time on my website and find many useful information. I just believe that the application rejected because the editor owns a relevant site. And i'm getting really frustrated as some of the websites already listed shouldn't be there.

So what you do when you believe your website should be listed and because of the editor's personal interest is not. Is there another person to review it?
 

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By filing the abuse report you can be sure that your website and the reason for rejection will be looked at by atleast one meta editor.
That meta editor will either agree that the website is not listable accoring DMOZ guidelines or that the the website is listable.
If the website is listable the previous rejection can either be abuse (actions will be taken to make sure it won't happen again) or just a misunderstanding (the website will be listed or be put back in the pool of unreviewed websites).
 
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