English Site, but German Company

Webnauts

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My web site is English, but my company is located here in Germany. I tried to submit to the English DMOZ section, but after that, I was told for some people that I need a US, UK, Australia, New Zealand or Canadian physical address to get in there, so I thought trying to submit to the German section, as I did today.

Can you please give me a hand to figure this out?

I will appreciate your advise very much.

Thank you so much in advance,

John
 

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Webnauts said:
I was told for some people that I need a US, UK, Australia, New Zealand or Canadian physical address to get in there
This is totaly wrong. We only look at the language on the website not on the top level domain.
 

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It all depends on the website.
If it is a website with information that is of interest to people all over the world (or lager parts of it) it will be listed in a category about the contents of the website.
If the website is only of interest to people in a small part of the world (1 country or smaller) it will be listed in Regional.
In some cases websites might be listed in both a Topic and in Regional.
 

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Well if you would look at my web site, you would notice that my web site is an excellent resource for users interested in optimizing their web sites for users and search engines. Excellent tutorials and tools, with an enorm popularity. Correct me if you think that I am wrong.

I made huge efforts to make the site accessible and usable to all users, in other words including people with disabilities, and I conform 100% to the W3C standards, major search engines and web credibility guidelines.

All that said, I just cannot overcome the horrible feeling, that my site does not deserve to be indexed in DMOZ. If you say that my site does not deserve that, can you explain why I have to wait since December 2007 to get included, and so far no chance?

Allow me to say that I feel that it is not fair. Or do you disagree?

So please tell me what do you recommend me to do next.

Thank you so much again for your kind support.

John
 

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Webnauts said:
Well if you would look at my web site,
That is not something we do here at R-Z. Only at the moment a website is reviewed at DMOZ we will establish if it will be included in DMOZ.

I made huge efforts to make the site accessible and usable to all users, in other words including people with disabilities, and I conform 100% to the W3C standards, major search engines and web credibility guidelines.
None of which will have any influence on the review process of DMOZ.

All that said, I just cannot overcome the horrible feeling, that my site does not deserve to be indexed in DMOZ. If you say that my site does not deserve that, can you explain why I have to wait since December 2007 to get included, and so far no chance?
Most probably because no editor has looked at the website yet.
Please read the FAQ for more explanation.

Allow me to say that I feel that it is not fair. Or do you disagree?
Yes, I do. There are thousands if not millions of websites. They all want a prefered treatment. An none will get it.

So please tell me what do you recommend me to do next.
I can not tell you what to do. That is up to you to decide.
But in relation to DMOZ. You have suggested your website. That is all you can do. At some time in the future an editor will look at the suggested website. When that will be. Noone knows. It could be tomorrow, or next week, next month, next year, it could even take several years. We just don't know.
 

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pvgool said:
That is not something we do here at R-Z. Only at the moment a website is reviewed at DMOZ we will establish if it will be included in DMOZ.
Fine.


pvgool said:
None of which will have any influence on the review process of DMOZ.
I got several offers from editors asking for cash to get my site included. What I did? I rejected their offer and reported the abuse. Should I blame myself for doing that? No way!

pvgool said:
Most probably because no editor has looked at the website yet. Please read the FAQ for more explanation.
That is what I assumed.


pvgool said:
Yes, I do. There are thousands if not millions of websites. They all want a prefered treatment. An none will get it.
I do not expect a preferred treatment. I simply assumed that DMOZ gives weight to quality web sites and not to persons.

But I have to add here: I have another high quality site that was included for years and some time ago, I cannot remember when, it disappeared without any reason. All this make me think that this might be something personal. Or not?

pvgool said:
I can not tell you what to do. That is up to you to decide.
But in relation to DMOZ. You have suggested your website. That is all you can do. At some time in the future an editor will look at the suggested website. When that will be. Noone knows. It could be tomorrow, or next week, next month, next year, it could even take several years. We just don't know.
Well, then I will just sit back and wait. Thank you anyway for your time trying to help a helpless one out. :)
 

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I rejected their offer and reported the abuse.

Good, that's one problem less for all of us to worry about.

I simply assumed that DMOZ gives weight to quality web sites and not to persons.

But how can you know, without looking first, whether a website is "quality" or not?

A fairer statement would be "DMOZ gives weight to 'at-least-adequate sites' which are found by methods considered likely to find sites with unique content."

(Considered by whom? Well, by the people who have most experience in trying different methods of finding unique contributions to the web.)

Allow me to say that I feel that it is not fair. Or do you disagree?

Everyone has their own definition of "fair". My own definition would be that every website should be prioritized based on the subject knowledge presented, not on how much the owner knows about self-promotion or site-promotion.

Admittedly, the ODP is horribly unfair--people who know more about site promotion have a big advantage.

But here you come face to face with the Cuban Medical Care syndrome: if you only have two bucks a year per capita to spend on medical care, what does it matter how evenly ("fairly";) ) it's distributed? What you need to do is improving EFFICIENCY and/or increasing the BUDGET. Hiring storm troopers to keep everyone stand in a "perfectly equitable line" (by some psychopathic dictator's definition) until they get medical care or (far more likely) die, is ... a 100% waste of all the money spent on storm trooper bullets and billets.

The ODP takes a different approach. What matters is (1) improving the efficiency of the (volunteer) workforce, and (2) increasing the value added by what work is done.

This is handled by (1) letting each volunteer choose where to focus, and (2) letting each volunteer choose how to look for sites.

This means each volunteer can focus on a category where his work makes a difference he can see--a topic that is both inherently interesting to at least one surfer, and where unique information is not as well represented as at least one volunteer thinks it could be.

I doubt if information about website promoting is all that hard to find on the web; I'm sure it's of interest primarily to a very small group of very-competitive professionals who tend NOT to engage in voluntary cooperation: in other words, who mostly don't fit into the ODP community.

Hence, their interests are neglected by the ODP community. But, after all, is that UNFAIR to them? Or is that unfair to the ODP community, which receives so little benefit from professionals in that field--so much less time volunteered than from so many other kinds of professionals?

No, there's no unfairness involved. Everyone involved is free to offer help--to any website, not just dmoz.org. Every website is free to accept help from anyone who offers. Everyone offers what they think is most important; everyone accepts what they think is most valuable.

That's freedom. And freedom can be better than "fair": it can be "generous". "Fair" could NEVER have built an Open Directory, a Project Gutenberg, a Wikipedia, a Cyberhymnal. But "generosity" did.
 

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I think things are far much clear now. So I have no more questions.

Thanks for the explanation. :)
 
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