How do I know if my site has been rejected???

I am so confused - I could see absolutely no reason for my site to be rejected - I submitted it twice i think - once by my webmaster and once by me - b/c I didn't realize he submitted it. But still 2 months later it's not listed

How do I know if it's just sitting there in that pil you guys refer to - or if it's been rejected? and if it has been rejected - can I know why - and re-submit?

By reading their how to submit on their website it said it should only take days - so this really concerns me - can you please help me???? thanks

By reading their how to submit on their website it said it should only take days

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I'm afraid you are sadly mistaken. You might want to go back and read the entire thing.

It can take from a few days to a few years for an editor to review a given suggestion -- and that is what they are -- suggestions. This is not a listing service for webmasters.

You submit once to the single best category and then move on. there is nothing else you can do and no way to check to see if we have added or declined your suggestion.

Further to the thread above, i appreciate that sites are "suggestions" but would it not be better to let people know if there site is accepted or declined rather than keep them in the dark and saying that it could take a few days or a couple of years is just pure madness isnt it, its merely suggests lazyness of the editors and i mean directory or not it doesnt take that long to simply review a site for inclusion. If people these days think of DMOZ quite highly which i believe they do, then would it not show mutual respect to help them a little more than is currently available? Please dont take this wrong i just think these questions should be asked.

The questions you ask have been asked, and they have been answered -- hundreds of times.

They are even in the FAQ.

As you have said there is no way to check a submission and i also see that this topic has been tossed back and forth, so have you and the other editors come up with a way to check submissions or at least be a little more accurate for people on time when submitting? The need is certainly there looking at past threads and although i also believe editors are voluntary that still bares some responsibility.

We used to provide status of site submissions. We discovered that giving out status was completely unhelpful; 99% of the people who asked for status could do nothing useful with the information, and many came back to argue when they found out their site was of a kind that we don't include in the directory. So status reports are not coming back in this forum; we have empirical evidence that it is a waste of time for all people concerned.

Yes, editors are volunteers, and yes, editors are responsible. However, editors are not responsible in any way to webmasters or site owners; they have a responsibility towards the directory, to edit in accordance with the guidelines.

It is not humanly possible, for anybody, to estimate when a site that is suggested for review will be reviewed. The "two minutes to several years" response may seem brutal, but it is honest. We really don't know. (And remember that many sites are reviewed and included without having been suggested from the outside, at all - so there you are looking at a negative time )

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Just to make sure that I understand you editors correctly, I shouldn't worry if I registered my client's websites in May 2007 and they are still not listed? But I will have to answer to my client pretty soon about his DMOZ listing and with a sound reason, so just what is the average time period to get listed?

Thx,

zenden


P.S. My client's (French and English) websites have been registered both by category and by geography (Montreal, Quebec, Canada), here they are:

www.URL removed / www.URL removed (IT Consulting Firm)
www.URL removed / www.URL removed (Project Management Software)

The link drops are inappropriate and someone will remove them with extreme predjudice.

In general - 4 urls from one 'client' are not all going to be listed.

By category (Topical) suggest ONE site that covers the majority of your clients activities to the category that encompasses the business/company activities (ie if they do 2 types of business, look for the category that covers both)
By geography (Regional) suggest ONE site that covers the majority of your clients activities to the category that the business is based in.

Since you state the sites are bilingual English/French, you can also suggest the same url to the World/Français part of the directory

Note that you should suggest the SAME url to all 4 categories, not language specific deeplinks, not product specific parts of the business, just the single site that is about the business. This is irrespective of whether you split the products/languages out to seperate domains, or have them as sub directories on the main domain, the root url is the one that should (in most circumstances) be the one that is listed in all the categories.

Chances are that each of te 4 potential categories will be edited by different editors at different times.

so just what is the average time period to get listed

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How long is a piece of string? Some sites are listed before being suggested, some are never listed, the average is thus zero divided by infinity. There is no mathematical mean that you can use to guess at when something that is inherently unpredictable will happen.

I will have to answer to my client pretty soon about his DMOZ listing

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If you have offered a service that you cannot control (getting a site listed in a certain timeframe), the client has a right to be angry, but you knew that when you took on the job. If you contracted to submit/suggest the site for inclusion (as opposed to get it listed), and have done so, then you are not responsible for the site not yet being reviewed. It wouldn't matter who suggested it, it just has to wait for someone to want to edit those categories.

ust to make sure that I understand you editors correctly, I shouldn't worry if I registered my client's websites in May 2007 and they are still not listed? But I will have to answer to my client pretty soon about his DMOZ listing and with a sound reason, so just what is the average time period to get listed?

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Correct. No only should you not worry, there is absolutely nothing you can do to influence the process that will not, eventually, result in your getting banned.

There is no average. It is a mathematical impossibility.

Why?

Simple, because only a small percentage of the sites we list come via the process of having someone, such as yourself, suggest them.

Many editor never or only rarely check to pool of suggestions because it has historically been a very poor source of site. Certainly many newer editor rely on the suggestion pool until they hone their mining skills, but as they gain experience they are likely to go off and hunt sites on their own.

I can tell you that it is not uncommon for site suggestions to sit untouched for upwards of two years. I stumbled across some in the past that had been waiting for more than 5 years.

Wow, you are probably saying, doesn't that bother you?

Nope, not in the least. I volunteered to build a directory, not to process suggestions. I deal with work queues all day at work, I enjoy my volunteerism because I can do most anything I want, when I want. Now that may rub the wrong way, but the key thing to walk away with is that while the ODP allows folks such as yourself to suggest sites to us, this is not a listing service for webmasters. We'll look at the suggestions eventually, but definitely not on anyone's time schedule but our own.

That is what you tell your client. You simply explain that you submitted the sites (and please do not drop links here again) to the best possible category, and that is all that you can do.

And the light was...

Sorry for the link drop, it was just for you guys to know and/or check if needed. As for the services I offered my client, just a submission service with no other promise. The reason I asked for the average time is that a "supposedly" reference expert told us that DMOZ took 3 months to list a site.

As for the suggestions I made to DMOZ, my client has 2 websites; one for his company, an IT Consulting Firm, and one for a Project Management Software that stands on his own since it is branded and incorporated differently than his company and operated by a different staff. Both websites have French and English versions and of course, they are in 2 different categories; hence, my suggestions in 2 different categories, by geographical location and for both language versions, this last one suggested by a DMOZ editor before I proceeded. In the meantime, I got my client's websites referenced and listed in many directories and by all major search engine directories; so you can understand my surprise when I realized that my client's websites were still not listed in DMOZ which I did before everything else. Thx anyway for your good work and your patience,

zenden

P.S. My client and I will just wait patiently.

Hello, I read a lot about submitting to DMOZ before I submitted so I was aware of the major undertaking this is for a volunteer effort. I've just returned to look around to see if 7 months was a normal wait. It seems it is.

But in perusing the site I too did see a notice that it "could take a up to two weeks to get included". I could imagine if someone was new to DMOZ they'd be easily freaked out that their site wasn't included after a month.

Psylady

It says "it may take up to 2 weeks or more".

..and no one should be 'freaked out if their site isn't included after a month' because no site has ever been guaranteed inclusion to begin with.