How does ODP sustain itself?

Eli Aloisi

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My curiosity has crept up on me.
I know DMOZ is owned by Netscape. But it's gotta use a TON of server power and money resources. How does it stay open or become profitable for Netscape. The only thing I can think of is certain engines such as Google and Alexa pay to access it's database. Any thoughts?
 

motsa

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Doesn't really matter how the parent company manages to afford to pay for it.

And, no, no user of our data pays to use the data -- it's free...free, free, free.
 

spectregunner

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It sustains itself with resources provided by AOL/TW, and by the sweat, imagination, inspiration, and dreams of the volunteer editors who make it all happen.
 

hutcheson

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You kids...

<crotchety>Back when _I_ started editing, every portal had its own Directory. Even in them days, Yahoo were the largest, it were....almost half a million listings, and hundreds of thousands of them weren't dead nur hijacked already, either. That was before Looksmart -- them guys copied Yahoo's listings, and ourn, too (and wurn't I surprised to see some of my own misspellings show up with Looksmart's brand on them!)

But Yahoo waren't alone: AOL had its own, Netscape had its own (to go with its own independent company -- that war before Bill Gates decided he had to own every electron on the internet.) Lycos had one too, and all the other independent search engines that were spammed out of existance by VStore/SMC/whatever their name is today--besides mud--and their greedy idiot helpers.

Them folks were paying big money -- tens of millions of dollars a year and more, apiece -- to build their piddlin little directories. Figgered they had to have it, whatever the cost. The ODP (Gnuhoo, it war called, before Yahoo objected to its last syllable and the FSF objected to its first) was a breath of free air. A handful of very bright techies, and a dozen crisp new Sun Servers, and a carefully built but free community, was by far the cheapest way of building a directory. Best, too, looks to be, but reckon us editors cared more about that than anyone else.</crotchety>

Of course, things have changed a bit since 1999. New millenium, and a new breed of spammers to trash any search engine's results, and a new breed of search engines with a tiny bit of genetic resistance to spam -- Looksmart went sucking PPC off of Bill Gates' midden, Yahoo de-emphasized its directory, and everyone else uses the ODP or gets along without.

Granted, the new search engines are good, and a lot of people get along fine without a directory. But for certain classes of queries, dmoz.org site search is still far and away the best tool.
 

Eli Aloisi

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wow you've been around for awhile!
I remember back in those days but I was young and didn't have the feel for starting an online business nor the cash.
I wish I knew then what I know now. I might have a pool instead of a lump of grass :)
 

spectregunner

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I remember those days as well. I fondly recall that stuff onthe top of my head that we quaintly called hair.

Never felt compelled to dye it purple either.
 

bobrat

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Wow guys - you are so young - I remember when a directory search was a pile of punched cards run through an IBM 1401 to match against data on magnetic tape. And you had to schedule your search a week in advance.

But remarkably I still have my hair and it's not grey [but my beard lost the battle]
 
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