How long does it take...

We submitted our site:<url removed> a long time ago. Just wondering how long it takes to be indexed in the DMOZ directory. Anybody can help? Let us know what the issue is for taking so long. Thank you.

Please read the FAQ http://resource-zone.com/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_site_questions#faq_how_long

Status check

What we meant is can we have a status check on that domain <url removed> since it has not been included.

Thank you.

I'm sorry, but we don't provide status checks -- please see http://resource-zone.com/forum/announcement.php?f=10 .

Did you read everything that is in the FAQ?
Did you read the threads marked "Announcement" and "Important" at the top of "How to Submit"?
No. Why?

Well...

How do people then know if their domain has been added or not ? surely in year 2006, automatic emails can be sent to let people know unless there is no will to do it.
No, I have not read the announcement. There are lots of threads to read and no one is going to read them before trying to get an answer to something as simple as what is happening to the domain.
Moderators and people involved in this DMOZ business, you surely can do better than this.

Thank you anyway.

william2006 said:

How do people then know if their domain has been added or not ?

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Very simple. If the site is listed in the DMOZ directory it is added.

william2006 said:

surely in year 2006, automatic emails can be sent to let people know unless there is no will to do it.

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Yes, this could be done if we were a listing service. But for the purpose of DMOZ there is no use to do so.

william2006 said:

No, I have not read the announcement. There are lots of threads to read and no one is going to read them before trying to get an answer to something as simple as what is happening to the domain.

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And just because it is such a common question we have answered in the FAQ and the special threads thinking people would take a few minutes to read them. But we keep to be disappointed.

>surely in year 2006, automatic emails can be sent to let people know unless there is no will to do it.

Surely you're right.

Think about the process of reviewing sites. 90% of the submittals are from spammers, just waiting to see if we've figured out how to penetrate their latest disguise. There is absolutely no will to tell them!

Now, the ACCEPTED sites -- we tell EVERYBODY about them. There's no reason, no need, no point in telling individual people specifically. It's all out there for everyone.

And as for the rejected suggestions, 99% are from people that obviously have no common interest with the ODP, and the sites couldn't be made listable without a server meltdown and a webmaster brain transplant. There is no will to tell them anything! There is only a wish that they would go away (or alternatively, die of excruciating frustration).

How about the legitimate sites that are waiting for review?

WE DON'T KNOW WHICH ONES THOSE ARE!

Not, at any rate, until we review the site! And at THAT point, we either tell everyone--or we lose all will to tell anyone.

What about the fraction of a cent of site suggestions that are accidentally deleted?

Well, we don't know for sure how to find them either. But it's obviously better to look for them some other way than in the toxic cesspool of "rejected suggestions". Because GOOD websites will show up other places: Google. Yahoo. Local chambers of commerce. business cards. printed advertisements. all the various GOOD places to look for good websites.

We already handle site suggestions VERY efficiently and VERY effectively: I doubt if any significant improvements in the process are possible. What we could really use, is more suggestions for good ways of finding GOOD sites (site suggestions are overwhelmingly spam!), and ways of making those ways of finding sites more efficient. Not repeat NOT suggestions of how to waste more time looking through a pool of sites (that is, rejected suggestions) that is (after spam email messages) the second worst known source of listable sites on earth.

pvgool >>>>>Yes, this could be done if we were a listing service. But for the purpose of DMOZ there is no use to do so.

What I meant was as soon as the site is added, automatically send an email to let the person who submitted the site know that their site has been included and save them time from having to check the directory every now and then.

I understand that you have to manually review the site before you included and that the majority are spam but onviously you have tools that help you do this.

hutcheson>>>>>>We already handle site suggestions VERY efficiently and VERY effectively.

Everything can be improved.

hutcheson>>>>>Because GOOD websites will show up other places.

How do you define good sites ? If you can give a close enough definition, you will be able to have tools that filter out the sites you do not want and only review those that make it past a selection criteria. If you do not wish to rely on suggested sites, you can have some tools that start with the domains already indexed in DMOZ and follow the links to other sites, analyze them and if they pass your selection criteria, send an email to the owner of the top domain (anything@domain.com or whatever) asking them if they want to be included in the directory. You can then give it a final quick check if they agree to be included.

If you do not wish to rely on suggested sites, you can have some tools that start with the domains already indexed in DMOZ and follow the links to other sites

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We're not short on places to find listable sites, without ever stepping foot in the suggested sites pool.

if they pass your selection criteria, send an email to the owner of the top domain (anything@domain.com or whatever) asking them if they want to be included in the directory.

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You do know that site owners don't have to be asked for or give their permission to be included in the directory, right?

The definition is "unique content."

Laputan text generators can fool Google easily enough, and (the most important thing) once you figure out how to fool an automated process, it STAYS fooled. In a world with thousands of spammers having no other goal in life but to fool automated processes via random trial and error, ... the ODP takes a different approach. Here, humans TRULY do it VERY much better.