How would DMOZ (and/or requestor) deal with this?

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Dutch

Or where in the below list should what action need to take place by whom?

A worst case scenario could be:

Ascending date order:
1)Owner is building a new site, different and upgraded content to preferably run from a second domain (or third as the case may be etc).
2)Owner requests change of original url to deeper link for genuine strategic reasons. (he needs an alert on original index page to new activity and requests change fromwww.example.com to www.example.com/original_description_still_matches.html. Idea is to make a second request to change back to www.example.com when new site is launched and SEO'd including DMOZ.
3)Owner now changes original index Content for strategy purposes.
4)No response to request of 2) even after further requests.
5)Owner submits new url to DMOZ after 7 months to category without own editor as new(domain) site is now ready for public.
6)New domain is just not being reviewed (even after direct mail request).
7)Now the owner has two options: a) Move new domain content to old domain or b) Re-direct old url index to new domain for strategic reasons.

a)If new domain content is moved to the old, owner can leave it as is or request further change to url. Chances are high that old domain will still not be reviewed and just sitting there with wrong description, which may or may not be a problem for the site owner (depends on type of content and other SEO purposes).

b)If redirected and new url eventually gets edited (owners preferred option) both url’s may well be rejected and/or algorhythmed as spam by search engines?

Or how to deal properly with changes that appear difficult in getting edited when already having a DMOZ listing.
 

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Re: How would DMOZ (and/or requestor) deal with th

First of all, step 2 is not going to happen. We would not deep-link into a site just so that the webmaster can fiddle with the front page without affecting his listing. This means that steps 3 and 4 are not relevant.

What we expect you to do is simply to update the site without worrying about your dmoz listing. When it's finished, you should go to the appropriate category, hit the Update_URL link, and give us all the details. We'll then see the update at some point, and go and change the description (if necessary).
 
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Re: How would DMOZ (and/or requestor) deal with th

Hi dfy,

That's a quick reply. Thanks for that.

Does a second 'update url' request override the first in the DMOZ software??
If so that would be helpful information.

Problem is that with the knowledge of a possible slow response from DMOZ, and making an educated guess to what the right strategy should be when a new url is the preferred option, isn't so easy.
As the existing url has good response for its category purpose and can thus be used to SEO for other cats, still remain the two options of my point 7. Than what as there will or may be a serious time gap in review of either domain with a chance of being misunderstood on the purpose of the excercise?

Suppose the content for my new site(domain) is now ready and I requested the domain listing, but don't get reviewed. Should I move the content to old and request the update as you suggest or should I re-direct and wait for both to be updated, again with a chance of being misunderstood?
 

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Re: How would DMOZ (and/or requestor) deal with th

>> Does a second 'update url' request override the first in the DMOZ software? <<

Well, I've not tried it, but I suspect that that's exactly what happens.


>> Should I move the content to old and request the update as you suggest or should I re-direct and wait for both to be updated, again with a chance of being misunderstood? <<

The best option is to set up a re-direct from the old URL to the new one. That way our automatic link checker will spot the re-direct and will flag the URL for attention. It will be looked at much faster that way.
 
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Re: How would DMOZ (and/or requestor) deal with th

Well, I've not tried it, but I suspect that that's exactly what happens.

How about trying it with a fellow editor and make sure.
That way you can inform the requestor in the 'how to' section of this fact, who can then update more than once (for instance to override error) knowing it's overidden without spamming the editors editing page?

This is a personal situation as I have applied for a .nl which now should become a .com instead. But I am waiting to avoid confusion.

Thanks.
 

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Re: How would DMOZ (and/or requestor) deal with th

As evidenced by the number of duplicate update submissions I've come across for individual sites over the past few months, no, a second update does not overwrite the first update submitted.
 

Re: How would DMOZ (and/or requestor) deal with th

I agree with motsa. I've seen (rare) examples of maybe 10 update requests for the same site just sitting there, waiting for action.
 
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Re: How would DMOZ (and/or requestor) deal with th

I've noticed the same thing. If duplicate submissions do overwrite old ones, it only happens sometimes.
 

dfy

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Re: How would DMOZ (and/or requestor) deal with th

Well there we have it. New update requests do not overwrite old ones.

If you have updates pending that you wish to cancel, let us know and we can remove them for you.
 
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