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motsa

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Whats funny is that I even applied to volunteer as editor and it responded with 'this category is well represented already'.

The category is well represented (which, in general terms, means that the resident editors are keeping up with the maintenance of the category and it doesn't have a backlog). Your site was rejected.
 

Then perhaps I deserve an explanation of the rejection. This site is a well established business and one of the top sellers of domains on the internet.
#1 Its a legitimate website just as most of the others listed in the category are
#2 We DO sell domains and only domains
#3 Our site name DOES begin with the letter 'D'
#4 There are no tricks or gimmicks within the site
#5 Unless the current editor is currently on the payroll of one of our competitors, there is no valid rationale for denying this listing.

I'd like to request a metas' review please
 

No, I wasn't aware of that although it also applies. If more than one listing is not permitted I would certainly give that one up for this category.

And thank you for your help
 

hutcheson

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The site may be appropriate for the category it is listed in. It absolutely does NOT describe a business appropriate for the suggested category. (I am not at this point trying to determine whether or not it is a legitimate business at all.)
 

"""It absolutely does NOT describe a business appropriate for the suggested category."""

I'm sorry but I have to question this response.
the suggested Category is:
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Domain_Names/D/
The company does one thing .. sell domains, we sell the Domain Names via the Internet.
The Name of the company is Domain Name Systems
(begins with a 'D')

Its obvious this is a clean, topical, service oriented website and from what I can tell does not violate any of your terms listed here http://dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html

Could you please elaborate as to what portion does NOT describe a business appropriate for the suggested category versus the other companies listed there?
 

hutcheson

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Thanks for the clarification about the "D" bit. Perhaps you could go into a bit more detail about the concept of "selling" as practiced by the entity, and also explain exactly what you mean by "company." I'm not sure what you mean by "clean" unless it means "devoid of information", in which case I'm inclined to agree, but confused as to how it would advance the presumptive argument.

It might be more to the point to explain how the company is DIFFERENT from others currently listed in the same category with it, and how it is incompatible with that category's charter.
 

I must say that I'm taken aback by the sheer lack of professionalism within this thread.
I was merely stating facts and trying to understand the reasoning behind a refusal to list a legitimate business website within a given category.
I feel that I've been responded to with a nonsensical debate that does nothing but try to avoid the subject.

As you know, it is not my duty to point out the differences in my company and others you've so willingly listed. If no two sites selling the same product were listed then I'd venture to say you'd have all but one link per category.
My job is to sell domains and submit to areas that can lead to a higher visibility for our company, on the Internet.
As was so eloquently pointed out in a post by cjtripnewton within this thread:
http://www.resource-zone.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=status&Number=11073&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
you are not the internet police but have a job to do that should be taken seriously.


I have yet to receive the answer I was looking for, which I will repeat and elaborate on.
What are the reasons for my site to be non-eligible for the category I suggested it to?
and
Will you act as a professional should and list it?
 

hutcheson

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Anyone who is doing site promotion "professionally" needs to understand the submitters' and editors' guidelines. The former say to submit a site to the most appropriate category, but that the actual listing is the editor's discretion. The latter say that multiple listings is "the exception" (although there are "standard" exceptions, none of which seem to apply here).

The editor chose a category which is more specific than the one you suggest (involving a particular kind of domain names.) It is obvious that at least some of the content on the site fits the category.

Passing by the question of the first letter of the company's name, and the legitimacy of the company, and several other irrelevancies that perhaps might better have not been raised, the relevant questions are: 1)Is there content on the site that doesn't fit the category it's in? (in which case the listing might need to be moved) 2) Is the site so exceptional that one listing cannot suffice to represent it adequately? (in which case additional listings might be appropriate)

Now, the editors' answer to both of these questions was "no". And of course it's impossible for them to list all the possible exceptions and or content types that might have changed either answer to "affirmative" -- and show that none applied.

In the absence of information that would suggest that decision was wrong (either that the site is wrongly placed, or is truly exceptional), there's nothing to debate, nothing to decide upon, and no reason to change.
This forum, of course, is not a place where such information can be given. But it could, I suppose, be used to point to aspects of the website that were overlooked in previous reviews.

So: the answer to your question is: the editor asked the two questions above, and gave negative answers. Other editors looked, and got the same answers. There could be many reasons for that -- the site navigation is very poorly designed and partly disfunctional: the editors
might not have been able to find that "exceptional" content, or they might have lost patience looking for it. (The link that _I_ thought had the best chance of being that content was broken. Well, we've listed worse, so you can't call this one "_exceptionally_ unprofessional".)

Well, I recognize that you probably won't like the answers, but if you can address the critical issues, some editor will may be willing to volunteer to look at the site again. No response guaranteed -- that is absolutely not part of the non-joblike thing called editing. And the lawyers require you to be informed (although perhaps the expectation of comprehension wouldn't stand up in court) that no site is guaranteed even one listing, before you submit any URL.

If you can work within those parameters, the ODP might be one avenue of at least informing the world about your site, although promotion of it will probably require other approaches.
 

dfy

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The category charter which hutcheson refers to (visible at http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Domain_Names/desc.html) contains the follwing paragraph:

"If you provide more than one service (i.e. Domain Name Registration, Hosting, Promotion, Marketing), you should submit your site to Computers/Internet/Web_Design_and_Development/Designers or Computers/Internet/Web_Design_and_Development/Hosting, in the appropriate alphabar".

Since your site offers domain name registration, web hosting, and site design, it should not have been submitted to Computers/Internet/Domain_Names/ . As a professional I am sure that you read the submission notice before making your submission, and hence you would have known this before you came here asking for your status.


>> My job is to sell domains and submit to areas that can lead to a higher visibility for our company, on the Internet. <<

Our job is to objectively review and evaluate sites submitted to us, and list or reject them as appropriate. Your site has been reviewed by the local editor, and subsequently by a meta editor, and it has been found inappropriate for listing in the category you chose to submit it to. We are not required to take into account your need for promotion.


>> I have yet to receive the answer I was looking for <<

Unfortunately the answer you are looking for is "yes, your site is listed", but I'm afraid you will not get that answer, no matter how many times you ask the question.


>> Will you act as a professional should and list it? <<

No. I will act as a professional and foillow the guidelines laid out for us, meaning that your site will not be listed.
 
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