http://www.eprovided.com

motsa

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As a deeplink to a specific service subpage of a site that is already listed appropriately in both Topical and Regional, it won't be listed.

[edited to add "to a specific service subpage" to above comment in the hopes that it makes it clearer]
 

cqjb

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Why not with me? Dmoz does this all the time, actual example below. This site has two deep-links as well as 4 listings. My content is original and written by be?

Please explain in detail the difference for me?

Open Directory Sites (1-4 of 4)

Search Engine Optimization Code of Ethics - An Internet consultant provides a code of ethics for SEOs.
-- http://www.bruceclay.com/web_ethics.htm Computers: Internet: Web Design and Development: Promotion: Ethics and Standards (2)

Bruce Clay - Offers web site design, promotion information and consulting services.
-- http://www.bruceclay.com Business: Marketing and Advertising: Internet Marketing: Marketing Services (1)

Bruce Clay, LLC - Internet business consultants offering web marketing assistance to emerging businesses.
-- http://www.bruceclay.com Regional: North America: United States: California: Localities: M: Moorpark: Business and Economy (1)

Search Engine Optmization Standards Discussion - Examines the issues surrounding SEO standards of conduct.
-- http://www.bruceclay.com/EmergingStandards.htm Computers: Internet: Web Design and Development: Promotion: Ethics and Standards (2)
 

motsa

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You're looking to get a deeplink to a service you offer listed separately. That's not going to happen.
 

cqjb

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Listed seperately? How is this different from the sites below? How is this seperate? It deals with recovering data just as on my main site it explains we do?
Please explain in detail the difference for me? How is it that the sites below are able to do exactly what you just said I can not do? And they have 4 listings, I am confused to the max here.

Open Directory Sites (1-4 of 4)

Search Engine Optimization Code of Ethics - An Internet consultant provides a code of ethics for SEOs.
-- http://www.bruceclay.com/web_ethics.htm Computers: Internet: Web Design and Development: Promotion: Ethics and Standards (2)

Bruce Clay - Offers web site design, promotion information and consulting services.
-- http://www.bruceclay.com Business: Marketing and Advertising: Internet Marketing: Marketing Services (1)

Bruce Clay, LLC - Internet business consultants offering web marketing assistance to emerging businesses.
-- http://www.bruceclay.com Regional: North America: United States: California: Localities: M: Moorpark: Business and Economy (1)

Search Engine Optmization Standards Discussion - Examines the issues surrounding SEO standards of conduct.
-- http://www.bruceclay.com/EmergingStandards.htm Computers: Internet: Web Design and Development: Promotion: Ethics and Standards (2)
 

motsa

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The deeplink you're asking for is a completely different situation to the ones you are quoting and therefore you can't use them as examples of a double standard. The deeplinks you're quoting are OK (and if you had really looked at them and the category they're in, you'd know why they are different from yours). Granted, perhaps they could be trimmed back to one deeplink instead of 2 since they're in the same category but that isn't what this is about and their existence is really not your concern. Your only concern is what the status of your deeplink request is and that is that, no, it won't be listed.
 

cqjb

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You said "perhaps they could be trimmed back to one deeplink instead of 2 since they're in the same category but that isn't what this is about and their existence is really not your concern. Your only concern is what the status of your deeplink request is and that is that, no, it won't be listed."

I disagree

So if this is a double standard is there a better category for this listing? Thank you for your reply. I must say I think it is to all web-masters concerns of how and why a site is listed in 4 categories, as DMOZ is an open directory I think it is fair to say that it is in our best interest to understand your reasoning here, this way you folks will have less problems trying to organize your site as web-masters will have a better idea how to go about the submission process exactly.

I am still confused and hope others have a better thorough explanation to this. I really wish others would come in here and comment on this situation.

I trust your comments to be the best of your ability but I am just looking for a clarification, I do not mean to come across hostile but some of the responses I get appear to be that way. I am just looking for clarification in order for DMOZ to be the best it can be.
 

motsa

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>>So if this is a double standard is there a better category for this listing?

No. It will not be listed anywhere. Per the forum guidelines here ""Rejected, and not likely to be accepted anywhere" is a reasonable status." -- you've been given that status.

>>I do not mean to come across hostile but some of the responses I get appear to be that way.

I'm not being hostile. I've given you your deeplink submission's status succinctly. Perhaps the rewording of one of my previous posts will make it clearer -- "As a deeplink to a specific service subpage of a site that is already listed appropriately in both Topical and Regional, it won't be listed."
 

lachenm

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I think motsa was pretty clear. Let me make it simpler:

1. No, this is not a double standard.

2. There is no better category for the type of deeplink you are suggesting. It won't be listed.

3. The types of deeplinks you use as examples are not the same as the type you want to submit. They are not deeplinks for specific services of a company.

In general, deeplinks are avoided. However, in some situations, deeplink might be added if it was, for example, an informational resource that added value to a category. Deeplinks are not added simply for the promotion of specific products or services. Companies are expected to be able to design their own websites to promote their own businesses; the ODP is not intended as a substitute for good web design.

I hope this helps.

[Added] Motsa's faster again <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> , but I'll leave this in the hope that it helps to clarify the issue. [/Added]
 

cqjb

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For the record - I understand your comments but this is a complete miscommunication of a thread when you have this site listed this way below.
If what you say is correct then what is below is not, if what you say is correct and the site below is as well then DMOZ is not being fair and equal to all submissions.

As an example And a great resource...

Open Directory Sites (1-4 of 4)

Search Engine Optimization Code of Ethics - An Internet consultant provides a code of ethics for SEOs.
-- http://www.bruceclay.com/web_ethics.htm Computers: Internet: Web Design and Development: Promotion: Ethics and Standards (2)

Bruce Clay - Offers web site design, promotion information and consulting services.
-- http://www.bruceclay.com Business: Marketing and Advertising: Internet Marketing: Marketing Services (1)

Bruce Clay, LLC - Internet business consultants offering web marketing assistance to emerging businesses.
-- http://www.bruceclay.com Regional: North America: United States: California: Localities: M: Moorpark: Business and Economy (1)

Search Engine Optmization Standards Discussion - Examines the issues surrounding SEO standards of conduct.
-- http://www.bruceclay.com/EmergingStandards.htm Computers: Internet: Web Design and Development: Promotion: Ethics and Standards (2)
 

cqjb

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You said an informational resource that added value to a category. Deeplinks are not added simply for the promotion of specific products or services.

What am I promoting? What service is being promoted? Looks to me that this is fyi as you just said is a good thing.
How is it that this is not a value added resource when it is all helpful information about a recent major industry change that will benefit all web-masters and site owners/domain registrars?
 

lachenm

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Ummm, just a guess, but maybe you're promoting your memory stick recovery service?

How did I leap to that conclusion?

1. You submitted the page to a category for businesses offering recovery services.

2. The link from your homepage is in a sentence that begins "Memory stick recovery can be handled by eProvided.com".

3. The second line on the page you submitted is "Memory Stick Recovery Service; a service for memory stick recovery and digital image recovery."

4. The fourth line on the page is "eProvided, a United States company has today announced its new 'Digital Image Recovery Service' named Image-Recover."

5. It goes on from there... The entire page is about your company's memory stick recovery services.

That's not even a borderline case. The page is about your service. The intent is to promote your service.

I honestly can't begin to imagine how you could possibly think this page is anything but a promotion of your company's service.
 

cqjb

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Status of http://www.eProvided.com submission

New management at www.eProvided.com and we are wondering the status of the listing here? The site focuses on Memory Stick Recovery/Digital Image Recovery and Data Recovery.

Is it possible to have this corrected or added as it has been submitted before?

We would gladly appreciate it as we are recently in the press and no listings are showing on DMOZ. ;)

Was previously submitted to - http://dmoz.org/Computers/Hardware/Storage/Data_Recovery/
 

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Re: Status of http://www.eProvided.com submission

The previous discussion is not in line with current status, the site has been redesigned. Is it listed? I see no listings? Please advise. Thank you.

:)
 

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Re: Status of http://www.eProvided.com submission

My advice is to read the answer to the question before repeating it.
 

cqjb

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Status of eProvided.com - Wrong Category

Status of eProvided.com - Wrong Category Still

Can someone tell me if this will be fixed?

It is now November 2nd, 2004 I am trying to be patient to a degree.

Needs to be in Data Recovery Location - Not Computer Repair
 
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