http://www.theblackwhitegroup.com submission status

http://dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/United_Kingdom/Business_and_Economy/Financial_Services/

Submitted 3 months ago

Your site is actually awaiting review in a different category, where you submitted it in December: http://dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Uni...d_Economy/Financial_Services/Personal_Finance

Also, please do not continue to submit subsites of your business (e.g. http://www.black-white-insurance.co.uk ). Our submission guidelines specifically request that you do not submit related sites. Thanks.

lachenm]Your site is actually awaiting review in a different category said:

http://dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/United_Kingdom/Business_and_Economy/Financial_Services/Personal_Finance[/url]

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OK, thanks for that.

Also, please do not continue to submit subsites of your business (e.g. http://www.black-white-insurance.co.uk ). Our submission guidelines specifically request that you do not submit related sites. Thanks.

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OK, I need to understand this- I have 3 other sites that are related to the site I'm aksing for a staus check for here but they're all with different content, different URI's and submitted to different categories because they're different companies- is this not allowed?

Thanks for your guidance, I really don't want to be spamming so am keen to understand the process.

If they are completely separate businesses, covering completely different business lines, we MAY warily consider them.

If they are separate websites of separate parts of the same business entity -- even if the product lines are unrelated, we probably will not reconsider them.

Imagine you are a farmer. You grow apples and you submit you website to agriculture/fruits/apples. All is good. Then you plant a bunch of peach trees. If you add the peavhes to your apples website, you are NOT going to get listed in both agriculture/fruits/apples and agriculture/fruits/peaches, but we would probably move your site up to agriculture/fruits if we felt there was enough content of both (editor judgement). Now to you apples and peaches are totally different things, but to us they are just fruit. Now suppose you start doing the whole shopping cart thing for online sales. We will probably move you to an apprpirate shopping category, not give you another listing. This generaly philosophy applies whether you have one website or a dozen -- only one is going to get listed.

Of courese thre are exceptions, that's why I used a lot of waffle words like "probably" and "may" in the above description, but I wanted to give you the general idea.

We run into this a lot because, a separate business in the eyes of the webmaster is very, very often not a separate buisness in our eyes.

kevleitch said:

I need to understand this- I have 3 other sites that are related to the site I'm aksing for a staus check for here but they're all with different content, different URI's and submitted to different categories because they're different companies- is this not allowed?

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The short answer is: With a description like this, chances of you having stumbled across a case where this is allowed are negligable. Chances of you having re-invented one of the standard promotional-doorway-spamming scams is 101%, plus or minus .9%.

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The short answer is: With a description like this, chances of you having stumbled across a case where this is allowed are negligable. Chances of you having re-invented one of the standard promotional-doorway-spamming scams is 101%, plus or minus .9%.

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No, I don't think I've re-invented anything. I'm genuinely not interested in any spamming techniques and I am genuinely interested in doing the right thing. If I've misunderstood the T&C's then I'm genuinely sorry. Here's the situation-

The Group site I submitted and referenced in this thread contains mainly corporate stuff about the Group itself- press releases, about us etc. I'm also responsible for the three companies that 'belong' to the Group, one concerns mortgages, one concerns loans and one concerns insurance. They are seperate comapnies, have seperate staff running the companies and do different and distinct types of business- the only connection in the real world is that they all 'belong' to the Group (as a holding company) and operate from the same physical address.

If submission of these sites is not allowed then, as I say, I'm sorry I misunderstood your guidelines and I'd therefore ask your advice- would it be better from an ODP perspective to have one 'portal' site that covers all the different companies and forget about submitting the 3 others?

No apology necessary, we did not discern any malice on your part.

You are correct, a single corporate portal would definitely be the way to go.

spectregunner said:

You are correct, a single corporate portal would definitely be the way to go.

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Excallent advice, thank you. Please disregard any related submissions made prior to this date other than the the site referenced above.

Once again, thanks for your time and advice.

In order to help us get the URL you want listed, could you let us know the other URLs, so that we can keep an eye out for them?

Alucard said:

In order to help us get the URL you want listed, could you let us know the other URLs, so that we can keep an eye out for them?

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Of course, sorry, I should've thought:

http://www.black-white-insurance.co.uk
http://www.blackwhiteloanco.co.uk

Thanks.

Thanks very much.

HI,

Just to let you know, www.theblackwhitegroup.com is now a portal encompassing the other domains above as per the recommendations from yourselves.

Has there been any progress in the status of my submission or was it put on hold whilst I made the required changes?

No progress -- but I don't think it was placed on hold, per se.

Hi, just checking in- hoping I've got this right and its 6 months after original submission and not 6 months after I last checked. If its the latter, I apologize, please ignore this post.

It's six months after you last got a status update, but since your last request occurred before we changed the rules, I'll grandfather it.

Sorry to say, however, there's been no change in status: your submission is still awaiting review. If you don't see it listed sometime in the next six months, please feel free to return for a status update on or after 29 January.

Hi, Just checking in re: status...

I see no change in the status of your suggestion. Sorry not to have better news.

If not listed by then, you may ask for status in another 6 months.

(Request, by the way, is for http://www.theblackwhitegroup.com , last seen waiting in http://dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Uni...d_Economy/Financial_Services/Personal_Finance )