http://www.tvland.com/shows/batman/

motsa

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Definitely insufficient content...FYI: http://www.tvland.com/shows/batman/main.jhtml bypasses the Flash splash page.

Edited to add: Oh, wait. Strike that. In order to view the content, you have to use their pop up navigation box (click on the Launch Navigator button if you, like me, closed the pop up box as an annoyance). Don't know who thought that sounded like a good navigation design.
 
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yellowwing

There are 10 pages of additional content, if you use the flash navigation pop-up.

Is this dissallowed in ODP guidelines? Should they write in a regular html navigation to be included in ODP?
 

tuisp

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Is this dissallowed in ODP guidelines? Should they write in a regular html navigation to be included in ODP?
No, but some editors dislike Flash and won't review such sites, so it might take longer to be reviewed <img src="/images/icons/smirk.gif" alt="" />
 

motsa

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&gt;&gt;Should they write in a regular html navigation to be included in ODP?

It's not so much the fact that the navigation uses Flash as much as the fact that the navigation is a popop that made it difficult for me personally. Having a popup as your only navigation is kind of awkward for users in general, not just editors (for me, the popup ended up in the background behind the content page and I had to keep switching to the popup in order to move to another page).
 

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I looked at your site...and wanted to add to the statements above. If I were the editor who reviewed the site (I am not) or if I were just a web surfer I would have probably missed the popup content altoghether. I knew from reading this that it existed and found that I still automatically shut that window before it loaded and saw the additional options and had to hit reload to start over. I always automatically shut windows because 99% of the time they are garbage that I don't care to look at.

As an editor, I don't believe it would affect my review of the site but I also believe I may have inadvertently missed the content. As a web surfer, I wouldn't bother with the popup even if I knew it was there as I absolutely hate popups. My comments here are just as a personal statement as someone who spends a lot of time online...not as an editor.
 

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I use an automatic pop-up blocker that closed that pop-up before I even knew it existed. Relying on Flash alone for navigation is bad enough, but using a pop-up for a navigation menu is simply horrendous from a design standpoint - simply because people have been conditioned to close pop-ups as soon as they appear.
 

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My browser is configured to disallow pop-ups, so it didn't open for me when I visted the site. It was only because I'd read this thread that I knew to click on the "Launch Navigation" image to get the pop-up window. Even then I gave up after two pages, because I like to have my windows full-screen, which means I have to keep clicking between the site and the navigator.

As an editor, that means that I wouldn't review your site, I'd leave it for someone else. As a surfer, I wouldn't stay at your site, I'd go find another one that I can navigate more easily.
 
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acropelius

As an editor, the pop-up wouldn't affect the review "if" I knew they existed. Otherwise I, like others would ignore and immediately close any pop-ups.

Also "as_an_editor", I'm wondering if tvland.com needs so many listings in the ODP (currently 17) as everything is easily accessible from http://www.tvland.com/tvl.jhtml .

yellowwing,

How about letting us know the "main" purpose(s) of the separate sites?
 
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