I can not add my url

The only directory where I'd like to see my website is DMOZ, but I do not understand the reason why it is not added.
This is not illegal arguments or copyright infringement, is well indexed on Google and has a good popularity in Italy.
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Indeed, many of the articles, guides, or tutorials available on my site are in the top of the search query on Google, the first result.

DMOZ but no, he is my site still does not exist, even if I send the suggest url EVERY YEAR!
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Thanks to those who want to explain this great mystery!

Reset74

You might have misunderstood our objectives and how we operate here. ODP is a volunteer organisation building a directory as a hobby. Editors edit where they wish, when they wish and as much as they wish within the constraints of their permissions. We have no schedules or systems to force people to do work that they don't volunteer to do. ODP is not primarily a free listing service for website owners and it does not attempt to process their listing suggestions within the time scales desired by them.

Some volunteer will process your listing suggestion in time but we can't predict who or when that might be. Elapsed times can range from a few days to a few years. There is no need to re-suggest your website and doing so could be counter-productive because a later suggestion overwrites any earlier one.

I realized that like all open source projects, the work is mostly voluntary, but for years now every year I propose my website, and do not understand why is regularly discriminated against or ignored.

It is not a matter of time. Something is wrong .... maybe it's the project that needs to be reformed, or my site is not suitable or required changes, then report it.
My site is <url removed>

The GNU-GPL projects of any kind, must be clear, transparent, open and improved.

I am fully aware that DMOZ is not a service for webmasters but for users, and it is for this reason that we would keep to see added to my site.

Best Regards
Reset74

As jimnoble already wrote "You might have misunderstood our objectives and how we operate"
The task of a DMOZ editor is not to process suggested websites but to build categories.
For that task an editor can use the pool of suggested websites but he is not obligated to do so. He can ignore the pool of suggested website if he wants to and search for listable websites in a different manners/

BTW suggesting a website morfe than once is counter productive. At least it will make the time between first suggestion and review longer, the maximum result can be a permanent ban. But such a ban is rare and will only we rewarded to the most nasty spammers.

I entered the url just to see if there is a good reason why the site is not inserted.
While this may be seen as spam seems strange to me, but thanks anyway for removing the url.
Remain my doubts about this project: If an item is to suggest a site quite useless, use a spider network or enter sites you volunteers on the basis of indexing or quality of any content or to your searches.
Alternatively, this way of building the directory, using the add url in an absolutely arbitrary and without even giving an explanation for any exclusions, it seems to me something that is hardly in the spirit of political GNU-GPL.
The largest directory of the web?
You have entered even the site of a character, that I will not even mention, nicknamed in Italy Cocozza, who understands nothing of computer and gets nothing but copy portions of article from one blog to another, and is well known in Italy for this ...
Send the link of this scandal private message to both the moderators who have spoken.
This is the result of this volunteer work?
Congratulations, again, do a self-analysis, and review the design points, if your goal really is to build a large directory of quality to offer services to users and at the same time ensuring fairness to webmasters or bloggers of the world.
Reset74

Reset74 said:

without even giving an explanation for any exclusions

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There is no explanation because there was no exclusion. All URLs suggested from the public side are in the same condition: waiting for a review.


And, about the Italian blogger, remember that we aren't the Internet police. If there are copyright issues they should be addressed to the competent authorities in Italy.

It is not a matter of copyright law, but of moral behavior: if you copy a relevant tutorial-guide on how to configure emule today and tomorrow by a blogger from another website, you can not under Italian law take action. It 's just morally and ethically wrong. You said that this directory has the main purpose to serve the user to find useful web sites, but this is in contradiction to the site that I pointed out and sent url with private message, and I ask officially exclusion.
You can verify from you if you have the will to search on Google Italy as I have indicated, and parody sites that are born author of the site that you have reviewed, and that I will provide to send you a private message with these. Do not confuse things: the law is one thing, morality, ethics and fairness are different things.
Waiting for your feedback, my best regards.
Reset74

Don't expect to receive any specific feedback, because nobody can ask for a the deletion of a site or any other action that should solve external disputes.
We are not a service of that kind.

Any issue related to moral behavior, fairness and ethics must be dealt with by the parties concerned.

I received the PM from Reset74 with more detailed information.
Curious to know if the site is listable or should be removed. Not because someone wants it to be removed but because it would violate DMOZ guidelines.
I must confirm that I can not read Italian very good but I am more than capable of using the internet.
I checked several articles from that website and found the same articles on other websites/blogs. But in all cases the website under investigation did have the oldest copy of the article..And as a result I see that website as the original source.
I did find copies of some articles in English. They were translated by a human from English to Italian, not by some cumputerised process.
I also looked at the owner of teh website. He has conncetions from over 1500 people on Google+ and on facebook he has over 77.000 likes.
This does not look like a scammer to me. And I would have no problem inlcuding this website..


PS Please do not provide any comments on my remarks. I did not post this to start a discussion if this website should eb included or not. I only posted to let you, and others, know that I did invstigate. I will delete posts that are a discussion about this post from me.

No problem. I do not expect anything, what I understand is that you say, do not do this, we're this, we add, we do not take, do not give explanations, and more.
If that was born as a project open in the sense of the spirit-gnu gpl, I think that project has been very little discussion and this is the final test for me, and now the end of this project directory is no longer so clear and transparent.
As far as I'm concerned, as a blogger computing Italian, I'll do what I can, write an article on this topic and the link outrageous (in my opinion) that you have accepted and that I pointed out and on your policy. Thank you and goodbye.
Reset74

It's our RDF database that's open and free to download by anybody. The closed codebase is owned by AOL as, ultimately, are our operations and policies

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I think that project has been very little discussion

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On the contrary, there is a lot of discusion about the project. But that discussion is only accessible to members (editors and staff).
It has never been an open project where everybody could discuss and cooperate. Everybody can ask to become a member (editor) and start contributing. But he must accept the guidelines already in place.

As far as I'm concerned, as a blogger computing Italian, I'll do what I can, write an article on this topic and the link outrageous (in my opinion) that you have accepted and that I pointed out and on your policy. Thank you and goodbye.

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To me this sounds as. "damn, they don't give the answer I want them to give". What do you want, the truth or the answer you want to hear.

Open Directory Project: ODP

www.dmoz.org/
Help build the most comprehensive human-reviewed directory of the web.

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Pvgool No dear, this sounds like that misused and abused the title of the open project, and that the reason you give for your arbitrary decisions to include or exclude sites and more to give a service to users have been exposed!
You just do not pretend to understand, but you know what I mean.
What does Project Open?
Why use this term open?
What's open in what you do or say or have said to do?
I will write to this directory on my blog, and this discussion, and what I learned from you, and this is not some kind of revenge as you would like to appear or seem.
For me, the discussion was more useful than you think, I had a wrong idea about DMZO, now I understand what really is this directory.
You said you checked the website that I mentioned, and it seems strange to you that everything is normal.
The subscribed to create a tutorial takes from a couple of hours to a few days.
If I were to copy or take tutorials or guides from other blogs and convert them back to get them and publish my, my blog would be the richest of all and reward google me, and people would say that good! But this is dishonest!
I close this topic: there are none so deaf as those who will not listen.
Reset74

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You just do not pretend to understand, but you know what I mean.
What does Project Open?
Why use this term open?

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No, I do not understand what you are trying to realize.
And what "Open" means has laready been answered by Jimnoble in this thread.
It only is about the free use of our data, which we provide in teh form of a RDF file. Everybody is free to use that data in a way they see appropriate.
The software is not open. It is owned by AOL.
DMOZ is also not open as in open for all websites to be listed or as in open for everybody to list websites they want to have listed.

You can read more on http://www.dmoz.org/docs/en/socialcontract.html
it still mentions Netscape as that is our original owner, Netscape has been bought and is now part of AO
we even have an italian version http://www.dmoz.org/...alcontract.html