I Never Get Listed. Why? Please Help

Allergyguy

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Through the years I have tried and posted my website URL Removed and others and they never get listed. Years ago there was an editor in my categories that would knock off competitors and I was one of them. However I think he got caught and is now gone. Why is it that I still cannot get listed at all? I follow all the listing rules. Please Help Me Someone!
 

jimnoble

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Assuming that your website is listable and that you've suggested it to an appropriate category, you've done all you need to do. Some volunteer editor will volunteer to evaluate it in time but we can't predict when that might be. There's no way to expedite the process.

Please be patient and explore additional methods of promoting your website.

<added> You might like to re-read our Submission Guidelines which you've acknowledged to have read and agreed on several occasions. They forbid the suggestion of related websites and outline the penalties that can be applied should they be ignored. </added>
 

Allergyguy

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About not getting Listed

Jim, It has been years! And I still am not getting listed. I need this to happen to help my business in these hard times. Any help that you or anyone can provide is appreciated.

Barry----AKA Allergyguy
 

pvgool

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Allergyguy said:
I need this to happen to help my business in these hard times
Don't you think relying on a volunteer organisation to make your business a success is a little bit stupid. Certainly if that organisation is not active in the business of website promotion. Wouldn't it be much better if you would use (and pay) others who are.
 

spectregunner

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You might want to re-read Jim's last post -- it is as close to a clue as you are going to get.
 

imperialcoins

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I would certainly agree that someone should not rely on a volunteer organization for business success, but DMOZ has become a major factor in search engine placement these days.

Several years ago I had completed the application to volunteer as an editor. The application was denied. I have just applied under a different category that is a bit of a passion of mine and hopefully I will be approved. While there are only so many hours in a day I could certainly contribute a few hours a month helping out with various categories. (I can not imagine that it would take more than 5 minutes per submission to evaluate, edit and approve or reject)

Best,

Alfred
 

spectregunner

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but DMOZ has become a major factor in search engine placement these days

It really hasn't.

The guys on the "G" team have repeatedly said that we are simply a link. No more, no less.
 

rsnuke

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Voting process for sites.

I'm sure many sites submitted may not be appropriate or have some sort of agenda in mind, such as better google ranking for the reason they submit sites. But ever so often I'm sure a diamond in the ruff is submitted, I wonder if the power at be is the sole responsibility of one person, whom for whatever reason rejected the site.

So wouldn't a democratic voting process be a fairer assessment of submition, amongst the folks running this site?

Just an idea.... Don't shoot the messenger! :)

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spectregunner

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Through our system of starting editors off in small categories and watching their progress, helping them along, and slowing adding to their responsibilities, we do vote -- we vote to trust the judgement of editors who have permissions to work in given categories.

And, in a move that Ronald Reagan would have endorsed, we not only trust, but we verify. Every editing action by every editor is subject to peer review from within the editing community.

We are building a directory, not holding a popularity content.
 

jimnoble

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Assuming that a website is awaiting evaluation in the correct correct category:

Right now, one editor checks it, makes sure that its the kind of site that we list, rewrites the title and description and lists it. With experience, the job takes 5-10 minutes depending on the scope of the website (and its user hostility). How would insisting that several editors view the website and vote on it speed up throughput?

Our editorial guidelines are public and pretty clear about what we will and won't list. It doesn't take a committee to decide if a particular website will be acceptable or not.

Now if only we could persuade the MFA website owners to read them before they suggested their websites. It would save us a load of effort and them a lot of anxiety :).
 

pvgool

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jimnoble said:
Now if only we could persuade the MFA website owners to read them before they suggested their websites. It would save us a load of effort and them a lot of anxiety :).

I would prefer if they read the guidelines and do not suggest their websites.
Reading the guidelines and still suggesting the sites we don't want to list wouldn't save us a load of effort. :D
 

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Allergyguy, as an SEO professional myself I can tell you that I have gotten my sites, and clients sites ranked on the first page of Google for competitive keywords and NONE of those websites were listed in DMOZ. You really should focus your efforts on optimizing your website and taking other measures to get ranked.
 

medgeley

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jimnoble said:
Assuming that your website is listable and that you've suggested it to an appropriate category, you've done all you need to do. Some volunteer editor will volunteer to evaluate it in time but we can't predict when that might be. There's no way to expedite the process.

Please be patient and explore additional methods of promoting your website.

<added> You might like to re-read our Submission Guidelines which you've acknowledged to have read and agreed on several occasions. They forbid the suggestion of related websites and outline the penalties that can be applied should they be ignored. </added>

Hi

I followed your guidance to the letter, Google Analytics reported that one of your editors has visited my site a few times, and it still has not been approved.

I have been trying to get my site listed on your search engines since the domain was registered a few years ago, and I have no idea why it has not been accepted yet.

I realise that Dmoz is run by volunteers and it is really up to them whether the site gets listed, but as you know, Dmoz is an important search engine on the net. The acceptance of sites seems to be very random according to the postings I have read on the net, unlike any other search engine on the net.

I would love to get my site listed on Dmoz, but after following all the rules, I have failed to get it listed to date and I have no idea why.

Can someone help? It shouldn't be this difficult, particularly for genuine businesses who follow the rules.
 
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