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Jesol

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Hi

I suggested a site about 2 months maybe 3 months ago in
Top: Shopping: Clothing: Footwear: Specialty Sizes

I have not heard anything if i give you my website address is it possible someone can check the status or review it.

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We don't discuss specific URL's on these forums, so please do not post one, as it will be removed. This FAQ should help explain things better, but the bottom line is that DMOZ does not offer listing services. Once you have suggested your site, there is no way to speed up the review. At some point one of the volunteer editors will review the suggestion against he Guidelines and make a decision on including it or not. There is no way to predict when or by which volunteer this will occur.
 

Jesol

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is it possible to contact the editor, the category
Top: Shopping: Clothing: Footwear: Specialty Sizes says you can volenteer to become an editor so there is no one looking after that category at the momment
this category has only 49 in the list and not many people specialise in this category so it should not take that long?
 

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There isn't a specific editor for that category but editors in the parent categories plus some 200 who can work everywhere can edit there if they wish so the category isn't abandoned.

It's quite understandable that many website owners think that theirs deserve priority processing but so does everybody else too :). If you're looking for a way to expedite yours, there isn't one.

so it should not take that long?
I'm not sure if you're talking about becoming an editor or the amount of effort needed to handle your website. If you think you'd enjoy being an editor, by all means apply :).
 

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If there is a named editor on the category or a parent category, you can send them feedback via that link, but:
  1. Editors usually will not respond to public feedback regarding specific site suggestions.
  2. No preferential treatment (expedited review, etc) will occur based upon feedback.
  3. Any of 200 + volunteers can edit in a given category. The presence or lacking of a named editor, does not indicate who will be reviewing sites in a given category.
As someone who has worked in Footwear categories at DMOZ (and has 14 years experience in the industry ;) ) I can tell you that its an area prone to a lot of spam. The shopping sectors are even worse. There are likely to be many hundreds of suggested URL's throughout the categories, many of which will not be listable. It takes an editor with a lot of experience (editing), an iron stomach, and a lot of patience to review suggestions in areas like this.

2-3 months is not much time at all, even for clean categories, I would imagine it to be quite a bit longer before a review would occur in more troublesome areas like this. Once you have suggested your site for inclusion, there is nothing more you can, should, or need to do as far as DMOZ is concerned. No site is guaranteed a listing. There is no way to predict how long a review will take or by whom it will be preformed.
 

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Suggest a site

I have over 14 years experience in this shoe business and very interested working with dmoz to help organise and make sure process are in place to progresss a step forward. I have applied for postion to become an editor, how long is this process to review or is again there is no review time, I am willing to help and make this process better for the online DMOZ community?
 

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Applications require the review by Meta's or Branch Catmods who are also volunteers, so there is no set time for how long applications take for review. It is dependent on the application and having a Meta or Catmod available and interested in processing applications in the area. If you haven't heard anything after 14 days you can visit the Becoming An Editor thread and request a status check for your editor application. Just be sure to read the posting guidelines for the thread and include the required information so someone can check for you.


Hope that helps.
 

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>I have over 14 years experience in this shoe business and very interested working with dmoz to help organise and make sure process are in place to progresss a step forward.

Ah. I dunno about that. It sounds suspiciously dilbertesque.

But if you're ever interested in finding, describing, and categorizing websites which contain unique content, the ODP can always use volunteers.

You'll find processes already in place, demonstrably more effective than any other ever tried. You'll find progress having already been made beyond any other web directory. You'll find people working independently--more efficiently than under any conceivable organization. You'll have more opportunities to learn than you could imagine. And ... you'll find more websites to review than you ever could review. Which is good, it frees you to think about what is most important, and to focus your effort on what you think is most important.

Also, experience in the shoe business is good. But for editing some of these shopping categories, experience in fraud investigation is essential.
 

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yes I do agree whith what your saying but whats this experience in fraud investigation is essential about, I thought its about giudelines of the website need be reviewed, do you mean if a webste under a review is comitting an offence and so on?
 

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I believe he's referring to the fact that editors in many Shopping categories really need to be on guard for various types of unlistable sites.
 

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What you're always dealing with in those categories is deceptive websites, claiming to be a "business" although they have no employees, no location of business, no stock, no services -- all there is, is a website that takes your personal information.

Now, the website might happen to turn that information over to some pseudonymous or anonymous real business (which might actually fill your order). Or the website might simply charge your credit card and pocket the money. Website reviewers can't tell which, of course. It really doesn't matter, both kinds of websites are equally deceptive. And both kinds of website creators are constantly trying to make their websites look like the websites of businesses that actually exist. At the same time, honest business owners naive about online scams are creating sites that don't really give enough information for a surfer to check up on the business.

The combination makes editing extremely difficult. Ideally, a local editor would drive past the address and check out the building. Actually, that usually doesn't happen. But without that, how can you tell which are the businesses and which aren't?

Obviously, editors learn some techniques, which shouldn't be discussed here. But the problem makes editing in shopping categories more painful and less productive than some other kinds of editing.
 

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hutcheson said:
Ideally, a local editor would drive past the address and check out the building. Actually, that usually doesn't happen. But without that, how can you tell which are the businesses and which aren't?
Well, sometimes the Google Earth image shows a vacant lot or a residence, which suggests it's not a business. (I recently did drive by a business which I didn't recognize, and the address turned out to be that of a PMB, so I didn't list it.)
 

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DMOZ taking over 6 months and no one working on that category

I Suggested a site for for the following category

Shopping: Clothing: Footwear: Specialty Sizes

after 8 months no response

Ive done lots of research to find this is the 100% the right category for my site we specialise in wide fitting shoes and large size up to 16, both my manufacter are listed on the site + my competitors

Please can you help with this its not only taking forever but many poeple are finding hard to get supply of what we do and getting listed will help people with what they are finding.
 

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ODP is a volunteer organisation and editors edit where they wish, when they wish and as much as they wish within the constraints of their permissions. We have no system to force people to do work that they don't volunteer to do. ODP is not a free listing service for website owners and it does not attempt to process their listing suggestions within the time scales desired by them.

Some volunteer will volunteer to process your listing suggestion in time but we can't predict who or when that might be. Elapsed times can range from a few days to a few years. Please be patient.
 

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Jesol said:
Will you be willing to look at my submission
Maybe. But certainly not because you asked us to do so.

As Jim already wrote
"editors edit where they wish, when they wish and as much as they wish "
You noticed the "they wish", never did he say "you wish".
 

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Will you be willing to look at my submission

No. Most of my editing is in the UK because that's where I live and that's my preference. I very rarely work in Shopping because I don't enjoy working there. That's the great thing about being a volunteer :).
 

Jesol

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Site submission

Will another editor willing to look at my website which I sumitted over 8 months ago for me.
 

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Jesol said:
Will another editor willing to look at my website which I sumitted over 8 months ago for me.
Asking the same question over and over won't change the answer.
 
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