In Turkey, we can't use DMOZ ?

Hi

We have a very general issue to be urgently discussed and resolved by Dmoz in Turkey as Turkish webmasters.

For the last 6 months, we have tried adding a lot of websites, with different methods all of which were very suitable for Dmoz and tame for general web legacy. However, As we (as turkish webmasters) all know, Turkish Dmoz Editors choose and put only their friends' websites or their owns. They have founded their own kingdom of link-web using Dmoz.

Who does Dmoz belong to? If this is an open-source directory to be enriched by all webmasters according to some rules based on web legacy, why is this twining?

We would request that all Turkish editors be changed accordingly. Or else Dmoz will continue to be used as a way of raising some's position on Google rather than being an open source project. To whom is it open? In Turkey especially?

I would really want to call out Dmoz authorities to check this issue. It has been discussed on Turkish Webmaster Forums before and then. But no one has done anything so far.

Will Dmoz continue to be a project of some in Turkey?

If my complaint doesn't make any sense, please make some search on your own. At least make it on populer webmaster boards in Turkey.

Regards !

Muhammed said:

For the last 6 months, we have tried adding a lot of websites, with different methods

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Which is ofcourse impossible. There are no methods by which you can add websites to DMOZ.
The only thing you can do is suggest a website for an editor to look at.
As editors are not forced to look at those suggestions we can not predict wich editor will look at the suggestion or when that will happen.

However, As we (as turkish webmasters) all know, Turkish Dmoz Editors choose and put only their friends' websites or their owns. They have founded their own kingdom of link-web using Dmoz.

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There is a big difference between knowing and just telling the same story others are telling.
If you have proof of such abuse please write an abuse report and tell us about that proof.

Who does Dmoz belong to? If this is an open-source directory to be enriched by all webmasters according to some rules based on web legacy, why is this twining?

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No. DMOZ is not an open-source directory to be enriched by all webmasters. It has never been such a thing and never will be.
The Open in Open-Directory means that everybody can use the content of the DMOZ directory (as long as they follow some simple rules).
It does not mean that we will add all websites, it does not mean that everybody can add websites and it also does not mean that averybody can ask to have a website added.

I would really want to call out Dmoz authorities to check this issue. It has been discussed on Turkish Webmaster Forums before and then. But no one has done anything so far.

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Maybe that is because we do not listen to gossip. Provide us some proof and we will be able to look at a situation.

Pvgool , all you wrote to answer is a bunch of verbality. Whatever I have written, I am on my word and insisting on it. I am not a new member of Dmoz and I know what DMOZ is and how the websites are accepted or which criterias are needed. So please do not use bare literal expressions to make this topic cheap. This is a serious issue and your manner makes it trivial.

Now let me give you thousands of links in which you will see that much complaints but I am not sure if you will understand ( as they are all turkish )? Neverthless I will give some and some other keywords for you to search for your own, and maybe you use google translator in order to pick up the meaning

I want to know if I can write the links here or it will make any use to write? ( maybe I can send pm )

You want proof, and you are right. Again at this point. Can I send you, lets say 10 websites, all of which worthy of its content and name, and the way I add them, with caps, and we shall wait and wait and wait, and see if they are accepted? Though I know they will not !

I have been on this community for two or three years but never thought this issue worthy of complaining till I realized how Dmoz is abused. I even doubt that Turkish Dmoz Editors add links by charging the site owners with money, yes I do doubt.

If any Turkish Editors are reading this topic? Please prove me wrong, make it if you can?

You might have misunderstood our objectives and how we operate here. ODP is a volunteer organisation building a directory as a hobby. Editors edit where they wish, when they wish and as much as they wish within the constraints of their permissions. We have no schedules or systems to force people to do work that they don't volunteer to do. ODP is not primarily a free listing service for website owners and it does not attempt to process their listing suggestions within the time scales desired by them.

Vague innuendo and challenges don't cut it. If you have evidence of editorial abuse, please raise an abuse report. There's a link at the top of every category page.

I want to know if I can write the links here

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Please don't

jimnoble, Do you mean that ODP editors can do anything they want, add or remove any website they want to? I say that they put their websites or the websites they are related with emotionally ( money of course ) or sentimentally ( of their friends etc. )


What kind of a proof can I put here? A phone call record maybe? I really want to understand sth. Tell me that it is none of my bussiness. Or tell me that you gave ODP editors to put any website link so that they can raise their keywords on google or any other search engines? Tell me so that the misunderstanding will be gone forever. I really, really seriously want to understand and I am not metaphoring the topic.

Why doesn't any turkish editors see that topic anyway? Two reasons; one maybe that they have been on a loo..ong journey or this topic will end in their disadvantage.

jimnoble, I am pm'ing only one example, if you wish, I will later on pm a lot of other.

You will see how abused Dmoz is by Turkish editors.

jimnoble, Do you mean that ODP editors can do anything they want, add or remove any website they want to?

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If they operate within our guidelines, yes.

Please remember that not all websites are listable. Also, if no editor wants to do work in a category, no work is done there.

There seems to be a misguided belief that a DMOZ listing will cause money to fall from the sky. That might have been true years ago but we don't believe it's true today.

I say that they put their websites or the websites they are related with emotionally ( money of course ) or sentimentally ( of their friends etc. )

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There's no point saying it without any evidence. If you have evidence, such as emails asking for bribes, raise an abuse report and we'll deal with it.

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I say that they put their websites or the websites they are related with emotionally ( money of course ) or sentimentally ( of their friends etc. )

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Exactly. I just don't understand why search engines are giving so much credits for this cr..., I need to start a movement but not much support as this thing is not active like everyone though. I have legitimate web sites and have been waiting to index for almost decade and still no indexed, but I see editors with their MySpace profile everywhere and geocities sites with dead links. Shake heads.

I just don't understand why search engines are giving so much credits for this cr...

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They say they don't and I believe them. Why don't you?