Is this still in que?

I am just trying to see if my site is still in que or if it was denied...it's been about 6 months and nothing back yet.

My site is: <url removed>
The section is: http://www.dmoz.org/Business/Small_Business/Start_Up/Resources/

Thanks for the help...I have no problem waiting patiently, but if it was denied I would like to resubmit.

Perhaps you didn't notice the Note: These threads are NOT for Submission Status! at the top of the forum.

jimnoble said:

Perhaps you didn't notice the Note: These threads are NOT for Submission Status! at the top of the forum.

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So DMOZ would rather me resubmit the same site over and over again rather than just let me know if it was denied or not?

No, it would rather you did nothing at all - as we told you in the submission guidelines which you've previously read and agreed. Listing suggestions don't evaporate and so don't need to be refreshed. Listable websites get listed in time. Unlistable ones don't.

jimnoble said:

No, it would rather you did nothing at all - as we told you in the submission guidelines which you've previously read and agreed. Listing suggestions don't evaporate and so don't need to be refreshed. Listable websites get listed in time. Unlistable ones don't.

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According to the submission guidelines my website should be more than "listable" as it is 100% non-commercial, informative and authoritative content, no illegal material, is listed in the best possible category, contains 0 affiliate links or promotions of any kind, does not redirect anywhere and is written in English. Yet, I sit and wait to get listed while obsolete sites like http://knoxvillestartup.com/ that provide little to no quality content get in with no problem. I'll list some other sites in that category that don't belong and the reasons why.

I guess publishing high quality content and making it available doesn't matter anymore....it's just the politics of DMOZ and the editors that control it.

And just to prove a point; A couple of years ago I submitted on behalf of a friend with a website over 20 years old, a business over 150 years old and they got denied multiple times for no reason (obviously because they were eventually listed and nothing about the site changed).


Sites that do not belong in the start up resource section (http://www.dmoz.org/Business/Small_Business/Start_Up/Resources/):

http://knoxvillestartup.com/ - Offers no content whatsoever

http://www.rhondaonline.com/ - Primarily self promotional and spammy

http://www.hulseyfoundation.org/ - is written in Mandarin (Chinese) which clearly violates DMOZ's policy of all English, unless listed in World

http://www.howtostartup.com/ - Loaded with adsense blocks and spammy newsletter sign up forms

http://www.fastlinksolutions.co.uk/ - Offers no content and has links that have nothing to do with the site (Stop smoking links/ads)

http://www.sba.gov/starting_business/ - Goes to a 404 error page and should be replaced by the live link (SBA's fault for not redirecting) ...the editor can change that by switching out the link to http://www.sba.gov/category/navigation-structure/starting-managing-business

http://www.workingforyourself.com/ - contains promotional material disguised as resources...

http://thestartcompany.com/ - THIS IS A WEB DESIGN COMPANY AND NOT EVEN A FREAKING BUSINESS RESOURCE....wtf?

http://www.bl.uk/bipc/ - UK site, shouldn't this be in world?

http://www.canadabusiness.ca/eng/redirect/bsa/ - Canadian site, should be in world?


My point is pretty freaking clear. Politics and personal connections dictate who gets listed in DMOZ- NOT the quality of your content, unfortunately.

You've just stumbled across the truism that websites change with time, disappear or get hijacked. Thanks for reporting those issues.

Incidentally, World is for websites in languages other than English.

jimnoble said:

You've just stumbled across the truism that websites change with time, disappear or get hijacked. Thanks for reporting those issues.

Incidentally, World is for websites in languages other than English.

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I've also applied to be an editor of this category and other business related categories as well because I do think these need to be cleaned up and only high quality content should be accepted. I mean, I don't even see Business.gov in there and they have a million resources for start ups.

OK, I've whipped through your examples, disposed of the hijacked and unreviewed those that need re-evaluation (Our robots would have found the 404s eventually.) The others were fine to remain listed.

Many websites are self promotional and many are ugly. We don't care. Our only requirement is whether or not they have useful and unique content.

I've also applied to be an editor of this category and other business related categories as well

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Not simultaneously I hope. An editor is only permitted a single account here and attempts to gain more are unacceptable.

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sdiggles said:

I've also applied to be an editor of this category and other business related categories as well because I do think these need to be cleaned up and only high quality content should be accepted.

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We do not judge a website on the quality of the content. What you think is high quality might be very poor for somebody else and also the other way around.
We only look if the content is unique.
Editors are not allowed to reject websites based on what they think is quality.

I mean, I don't even see Business.gov in there and they have a million resources for start ups.

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It is already listed in http://www.dmoz.org/Business/Small_Business/Resources/ It is listed correctly and will not be listed in Business/Small_Business/Start_Up/Resources/ as it does offer resources not only for start-ups.

jimnoble said:

OK, I've whipped through your examples, disposed of the hijacked and unreviewed those that need re-evaluation (Our robots would have found the 404s eventually.) The others were fine to remain listed.

Many websites are self promotional and many are ugly. We don't care. Our only requirement is whether or not they have useful and unique content.


Not simultaneously I hope. An editor is only permitted a single account here and attempts to gain more are unacceptable.

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No I applied for a category on a higher level and was denied. Right now I am waiting to be considered as an editor for the start up resources as I am involved heavily in the space. I run <url removed>and we have only 1 ad in the top right corner to try to pay for hosting. Besides that it is all 100% free info and we have resources such as:

<long list of deeplink urls removed >

You already know that we don't allow poster's URLs on this forum because we've had to correct you before. So why did you post yours again ? (That's rhetorical).

jimnoble said:

You already know that we don't allow poster's URLs on this forum because we've had to correct you before. So why did you post yours again ? (That's rhetorical).

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Whoops, not sure why that's not allowed but sorry about that...heat of the moment :-/

Man oh man...still no response. I'm assuming that means I'm rejected. It's so funny how I am able to get into the Library of Congress, SCORE, SBA.GOV, Business.gov and other more authoritative sites but I cannot get into DMOZ....LOL