Long time waiting for listing

Hello All,

Please dont take this as anything other than an observation. I realise that this directory is managed and updated by volunteers who give up there own free time to do the work asked of them.

I submitted my site several months ago and it still is not listed. SEO is a huge thing these days and DMOZ has some bearing on where our site features in search engines and therefore, can have a direct impact on the business our company does. The category I am waiting for my site to be submitted to has not been updated for 4 years.

As I said earlier, I realise that the work is done by volunteers, but if categories are not being updated for several years, should this project really have an impact on SEO? If volunteers are not spending time on their categories, maybe they should be given to other people who take the time to edit their respective areas?

It feels a little silly to be kind of complaining about a service managed by volunteers, but every SEO site I visit or company I speak with always gives a lot of weight to DMOZ submission, but I am powerless to do anything about it. Everytime I see this question asked elsewhere, the answer is always "We will get to it whenever we get to it". No updates in 4 years doesnt give me much confidence that this will ever happen, therefore the hole in my sites SEO is unfixable.

Maybe DMOZ has got too big and too important to be handled purely by volunteers with no rules or guidelines on if they should be doing any work on it at all?

Regards

Martin

Should DMOZ be so important to SEO?

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The real experts know that DMOZ is not very important for SEO.
Other people believe the myths SEO-wannabees spread all over the internet.

djmobi said:

I submitted my site several months ago and it still is not listed. SEO is a huge thing these days and DMOZ has some bearing on where our site features in search engines and therefore, can have a direct impact on the business our company does.

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The only one who can have a direct impact on the business is the company itself and its employees. If they are not able to make it a succes noone will be.

The category I am waiting for my site to be submitted to has not been updated for 4 years.

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As has been mentioned in many threads. There is a bug in DMOZ that did reset the dates at the bottom of categories. All these dates do not have a meaning at this moment. AOL is aware of the problem. We do not know when it will be solved.

As I said earlier, I realise that the work is done by volunteers, but if categories are not being updated for several years, should this project really have an impact on SEO? If volunteers are not spending time on their categories, maybe they should be given to other people who take the time to edit their respective areas?

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Categories are not give to people. An editor can work as much as he wants, when he wants and where he wants.
As categories are not limited by the number of editors that can do work in them removing an editor will not be of any use. What do you want, an editor that does little work or no editor at all.

It feels a little silly to be kind of complaining about a service managed by volunteers, but every SEO site I visit or company I speak with always gives a lot of weight to DMOZ submission, but I am powerless to do anything about it.

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Seems you are asking the wrong people.

Maybe DMOZ has got too big and too important to be handled purely by volunteers with no rules or guidelines on if they should be doing any work on it at all?

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Yes, DMOZ has become big. And this certainly give problems. But not the problems you seem to think there are.
There are guidelines (as we like to call the rules). And these guidelines are available for everybody te read. There are no hidden rules/guidelines.

And please remember. DMOZ does not provide a service to people who suggest or own websites. Those people provide a service to DMOZ (and our users) by suggesting websites. And to be honest most of them deliver a very poor service.

I realise the "SEO Wannabee's" out there make more of the link between SEO and DMOZ than it really is, but whether you believe it or not, DMOZ does have an effect on a companies SEO.

Also, suggesting that the only person who has a bearing on business success is the company and its employees is simply wrong. Our company is very successful, but we are always striving to improve its success and SEO (More site enquiries) is how we have chosen to do that.

If the admins of DMOZ truly beleive that SEO and DMOZ have no links, and feel it is their role to advise people on their business plans then I am obviously "Asking the wrong people". Its just unfortunate that such a good and worthwhile internet project like DMOZ does not have any "Right People".

I can see that joining this forum, adding my thoughts and applying a couple of times to be an editor was a complete waste of my time. Having read your answers to many of your "Suppliers" I wonder why anyone bothers to suggest a site to DMOZ. Maybe we should leave the important task of deciding what is and isn't a useful site for the whole world to access to the 5000 chosen ones who obviously have way too much responsibilty and work load.

P.S. My comments about the last updated section in each category were made before I read on another post that this was a fault with the forum.

djmobi said:

I realise the "SEO Wannabee's" out there make more of the link between SEO and DMOZ than it really is, but whether you believe it or not, DMOZ does have an effect on a companies SEO.

If the admins of DMOZ truly beleive that SEO and DMOZ have no links, and feel it is their role to advise people on their business plans then I am obviously "Asking the wrong people". Its just unfortunate that such a good and worthwhile internet project like DMOZ does not have any "Right People".

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If DMOZ has a SEO effect it is an effect not intented by DMOZ. Complains should not be addressed to DMOZ but tho those who use DMOZ for SEO purposes. Maybe you should complain to Google and other search engines foru using DMOZ in a way it is not intented to be used.
The "right people" for DMOZ are those who care about the intentions of DMOZ. Those are welcome to become an editor.
The "wrong people" for DMOZ are those who are interested in an effect a DMOZ listing might have on their website. Those we prefer not to accept as an editor.