Lost it but why :(

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umesh

I have a lot of respect for the Open Directory Project. However, I once signed up to be a DMOZ editors and for a year after submitting various sites to my category, following strict guidelines, I was mysteriously kicked out.

After e-mailing other editors and requesting various times, I was never given an answer as to why I was omitted. (

Profile Page: http://www.dmoz.org/profiles/umesh.html

Umesh Gholap

P.S.: If if I use "forgot password" it still sends me the password.
 

enarra

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>> I was mysteriously kicked out <<

You resigned stating that you where an SEO and felt biased. Your request for reinstatement has been denied basically because we agree with you.
 

motsa

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Search Engine Optimization consultant (hmm, are they ever called search engine optimizers? Don't think I've ever seen that).
 
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rfgdxm

Yes, they are commonly called Search Engine Optimizers. Also, this is also used as a verb. As in "You really need to SEO that that site dude if you want anyone to find your site in Google".
 

motsa

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I had to ask because I've never actually seen the words spelled out in that respect (i.e. I've seen "I'm an SEO" but not "I'm a Search Engine Optimizer"). <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />
 

hutcheson

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SEO is kind of a misnomer, like "OEM", since the Search Engine is in fact being victimized, not optimized. It is "Search Engine Results Placement" that is being accomplished. Hence the more accurate terms "SERP Professional" or "SERP Optimizer" or (in a less charitable mood) "SERP perp."
 
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rfgdxm

Actually, so long as the SEO isn't doing things that violate the search engine rules, they aren't victimized. Google has a page on their site referring both to ethical and unethical SEOs. And for motsa, the term also is used in the form: "My site is well SEOed for the key search terms". SEO is not just a profession, but a technique that webmasters who care about their site's search engine placement use as standard practice. I'm not a professional SEO, nor have I ever paid one. However, my 2 amateur sites are very well SEOed. One of them on Google is coming up at the moment #1 and #2 on search for the trademark name owned by a multimillion dollar pharmacetical company, ahead of their #3 and #4 position behind me. This is because this company obviously never hired an SEO. Proved by the fact that while they registered the .com for their trademark, they foolishly left unregistered the .org, which I bought and put up a site badmouthing them. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" />
 

alpine

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Actually the "optimisation" refers to what is done to the sites and not to the search engines - but let's not allow that to get in the way of a good rant...
 
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Right alpine, as the only thing that can be optimized by the tweaking of the code on one website is the positioning of that site relative to others on a search engine. The term for those who work for search engines to try and get the best results are the algo coders. The 2 sides aren't totally at odds. Those who code search engine algos do so on the assumption that webmasters will create sites in a way that search engines can determine what they are about, and thus use that as a basis for ranking. Search engines largely base their algos on what used to be standard "basics" that could be found in webmastering texts. This goes back to the day where websites were pretty much text based. I see tons of sites today with lots of visually exciting flash content, graphics etc. designed by website design pros for clients who think that what is important is to have a site that is visually apealling to the surfer. Unfortunately, search engine spiders could not care less about how pretty the site looks. The SEOs are called in when the company doesn't realize why the fancy looking site they paid good money for is unfindable in the search engines. SEOs are the folks who teach clients and site designers that the WWW ain't TV.

The irony is that between the lousy flash trash site designers on one side, and unethical SEOs on the other, they are actually increasing the importance of the ODP. In the early days of the WWW directories tended to be more important because the search engine algos back then often gave poor results for searches. Directories by their nature categorize by content. Today, because these sites designed on visual appeal are hard for search engines to figure out, it takes a human editor of a directory to be able to categorize them. And, while search engines can be fooled by lots of doorway pages and articficially crosslinked sites, human editors can spot these.
 
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umesh

I am associated with a reputed business group focusing on corporate communications/new media content creation services, at their Mumbai office. No way I am a professional SEO and I never resigned but was very keen to build the category.

Thanks for the help,

Regards,
Umesh

P.S. Use to enjoy a lot begin a editor but don't know who did it to me, if anyone can check the IP from where I got resign from - I use to get connected from (Pune, Mumbai) here in India.

http://guide.vsnl.net.in/tcpip/static/dns/dns.html
 

orlady

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FTR, that list of IP addresses includes the servers (DNS, POP3, and SMTP) used by VSNL, but it apparently does not include other IPs assigned to VSNL customers while they are connected to the web.

Whois lookups indicate that VSNL also controls 219.64.0.0 - 219.65.255.255 , 203.197.0.0 - 203.197.255.255 , and 203.199.0.0 - 203.199.255.255 , for example.
 
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rfgdxm

Someone using you editor name and password resigned all your categories. I must say that the possibility of hacking here should be considered.
 
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umesh

Every time a VSNL subscriber connects, he gets a new IP address but VSNL has distributed IP's state wise...

Its just a possibility of finding out - if the IP address string matches from where I got resigned to any one from where I used to edit...

Regards,
Umesh
 

Re: Lost it but why :( NOTE

It sounds to as if you have a trojan running in the background and they are watching you remotely.
If you have a Windows then most likely you a special Sub7 unreleased trojan by Mobman.. this trojan allows special notification (as in 2.2) which had ICQ Paging notification to allow the hacker or the scammer access to your PC. It sounds to me as if when ever you log on the person finds out your ip and the random port number to connect on and he opens up a keylogger or a RAS password monitor which views the programs you have open to see the password included.

Go into your Regedit (start&gt;run&gt; type in regedit and hit ok) go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and go to software and once you click on the + go into Microsoft, then to windows in there it should show a Run a Run Once and a Run Once X.. go into the Run and check there first. IF you see something that doesn't even look like its a word (ie: jckeue483) remove it immediatly then if something says like Backdoor or RunDLL64 (which doesn't even exist) remove that too (any xupiter or LOP programs are to be removed as they are common undetectable active x backdoors like the common godfinger sort of one).

-Darren
 
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umesh

I appreciate everyone's feedback and thank all of you for your help and comments…. but then the problem is yet not solved... or should I just forget it considering the whole episode as pure bad luck! <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" alt="" />

Regards,
Umesh
 
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rfgdxm

I must say it does seem damn odd that you would first resign the way you did, and then come here and deny that you ever did it. Thus giving credence to the theory there was hacking involved.
 
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umesh

&gt;&gt;"I must say it does seem damn odd that you would first resign the way you did"

Well I used to feel that I was kicked out, only after posting here I came to know that -- "I resigned stating that I was a SEO and felt biased"

After which I stated that --- "I am associated with a reputed business group focusing on corporate communications/new media content creation services, at their Mumbai office. No way I am a professional SEO and I never resigned but was very keen to build the category."

To be more precise I am working for Shaadi.com, which is an online matrimonial web site. And anyone who wants to verify can call me at Shaadi.com (+91-22-24592277) or just mail me at umesh@shaadi.com">umesh@shaadi.com</a>

I will be very shameful to be a biased person and would have not mind even if was kicked out for any of my mistake.

Just as a testimony (This is from a SEO, who also an author of a SEO Book):

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Umesh,

Although my site does not offer tutorials, my book does. This is the reason I chose that category. Perhaps I misunderstood the classification.

Even though I wrote a book on the subject, I still learn through practical experience every day ;-) Many thanks for your attention to this matter. Much appreciated.

Please accept a courtesy copy of my book as a sign of gratitude. You'll find details below (it's on a site I'm developing at the moment).

Many thanks,

Mike.
<a href="mailto:mike@search-engine-book.co.uk

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I have great respect for ODP and enjoyed a lot being an editor; also I highly appreciate all your support and comments.

Thanking you,

Regards,
Umesh Gholap
 
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aneetajaswal

How about some hard facts on you being a professional SEO:

webmasterworld Your post, clearing stating you are an SEO

I Search Your Post in I Search

Above all you previously been associated with two seo companies as well:
Page Traffic

Enfusen

This all information is available in search engines <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> Nothing special.

It seems that you resigned first, and on second thought wanted to be back. Maybe to benefit the new company you joined.
 
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