Main editor disappeared

yshaool

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The main editor of this regional directory went for a trip for long time (he left a message at editor forum talking about 8 months - so I learned from other editors), but he did not appointed any substitute. The result of this is that many of the categories in the regional directory are not reviewed. This also stops the selection of new editors. It is as if the directory is paused!

Is there anything a normal user (not an editor) like me can do?

Thanks
 

nea

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The editor you talked to misinformed you (probably unintentionally, but still).

The main editor of this regional directory went for a trip for long time (he left a message at editor forum talking about 8 months - so I learned from other editors), but he did not appointed any substitute.
An editor who leaves does not appoint a substitute. There is no need to do so, and no way of doing so. There are ALWAYS a number of editors who can work in any one category: the editor(s), if any, who are named in the category, any named editors in the parent categories, and all Meta and Editall editors.

That doesn't mean that any of those will work in a given category during a given period of time, but thatis the case whether or not there is an editor named.

The result of this is that many of the categories in the regional directory are not reviewed.
No. Of course if there are NO editors, sites and categories will not be reviewed, but as explained above that is not the case.

This also stops the selection of new editors.
No, it doesn't, and I'm glad you came here so the misunderstanding can be cleared up. Only Meta editors can grant editor rights, and they can all edit in the whole directory. Editors who are not metas cannot select, appoint, remove or in any way change the editor rights of othe editors.

It is as if the directory is paused!
I hope you'll see now that that is not true :)

If there is a particular category you think has been neglected for a very long time you can always point that out - we always appreciate a heads-up, though we can't promise that anybody will go to it right away.
 

pvgool

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A lot of assumptiones here are wrong
- there is no main editor for a category
- an editor can not appoint substitutes
- categories being reviewed has no relation with one editor being absent or not
- an editor listed with his name on a category will very probably not be the one reviewing new editor applications
- the directory as a whole is never paused, 1000ths of sites are added every day

My advice
1) read the faq
2) ask for a status request
3) tell us the names of the people giving you all this misinformation, especialy if they are an editor (or claim to be so), we will have to tell them the truth about how DMOZ works

A non-editor can't do anything except suggest a site.
 

yshaool

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In regional

Hi,
Can the situation I described can happend in a small regional (different language) directory? I mean - the editor is the only meta editor? can that be?

Thanks for the answers.
 

pvgool

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Believe only what is written here.
I don't know who this 'someone that is an editor' or 'a second editor' is but would like to know so we can tell him he was totaly wrong.
 
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gimmster

Whoever told you that was wrong. Period.
There are editors who have their names listed against various categories, but that does not make them able to accept editors, does not enable them stopping any other editor with higher permissions editing in those categories, does not mean they are solely responsible for those categories, and it also means that there are many sub categories of the category they are listed in, that they can edit without their names appearing on them.

My name appears on the top of the Regional branch http://dmoz.org/Regional - that means I can edit any category within the Regional branch. Since there are probably 100,000 categories in there, I don't edit every one. I am not able to accept new editors within that branch, nor do I have to supervise any other editors there.

If an editor does 1 edit anywhere in 4 months they are considered to stay in good standing, the fact they don't edit more often can be for many reasons, including Real Life.

Just ignore whatever you think you knew, and re-read post #3 by pvgool.

:tree:
 
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gimmster

Can the situation I described can happend in a small regional (different language) directory? I mean - the editor is the only meta editor? can that be?
That's not Regional , that's World.

I think you are confusing what a meta editor can do with what a listed editor can do. Metas (and catmods) are the only ones who can accept new editor applications. They can also edit anywhere in the directory. Listed editors are those who can edit any category lower in the particular branch than the level they are listed at.

:tree:
 

yshaool

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World not regional

Sorry for confusing.
In the World category - does it mean only the same language speaking editors can edit? We are small country and it is possible that there are very few editors. I think the editor in vacation is the Meta editor (and apparantly the only one in our language). And from what I'm told he is the only one that can edit the specific category I submited to.
If that is the case, what should I do?

Sorry for being such new and green :D
Thanks
 

yshaool

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I kind of fear that I will be panished later for raising this matter (small country). That is why I do not state the name of the category. Can we discuss this privately? Can someone PM me?
 

pvgool

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Why would you be punished? There is no reason for fear. You can say anything you want at R-Z (as long it is within our rules) and it will not influence the chance of being listed at all (neither positive or negative).
 

hutcheson

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Punishment for what? What vile crime have you committed? Extortion? Burglary? Hooliganism? Incitement to riot?

Uh-oh. This is beginning to make sense. DID YOU KILL OUR EDITOR?
 

jjwill

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Good one hutch. lol.

I think what yshaool is afraid of is that since he/she is from a very small country and category, the editor of that category may read this post, get upset and be so inclined not to list his/her site. But this is a false assumption.

1. Very few percentage of editors ever frequent RZ forum so I doubt the editor you fear would ever see this post.
2. There are strict guidelines that the editor must follow.
3. No one editor has complete authority over any one category, so there are several editors that can list any site waiting in unreviews (that meet the guidelines of course).

So there is no need to fear anything here. :)
 

yshaool

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Kill the editor

Well when I first found he went for the trip that kind what I had in mind... :)

Anyway I hope you are all right and there is nothing to be afraid of. It is more than just turning of one specific website. I'm a webmaster and submit many websites. i also would like to become an editor.

Anyway, it is already clear from above that I'm from Israel.
 

upsetwhutch

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pvgool said:
Why would you be punished? There is no reason for fear. You can say anything you want at R-Z (as long it is within our rules) and it will not influence the chance of being listed at all (neither positive or negative).

really? then why do people get banned that dont break the rules? i feel people are quite afraid of retribution around here thus my user name and the reason i started posting instead of just reading.
 

andysands

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The forum guidelines clearly state:

Please remember that you are expected to be courteous and polite in all your communications. Flames, slanderous/offensive comments and advertising is strictly forbidden.

People who have been banned have generally been banned for failure to adhere to this bit of the forum guidelines.
 

oneeye

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Being banned from RZ has no bearing whatsoever on the listability of a site, whether or when it is reviewed, and the decision that is made on the site. The vast majority of editors don't come anywhere near this forum, and those that do, despite what anyone might believe, are extremely strict adherents to DMOZ guidelines and would never let anything said in here influence their decision.
 
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