More salt for the soup

More salt for the soup or is that the sore?

I was reading over the "Stafford Web Edict Guide" attempting to more conducive, and credible to visitors, implementing all the big boy technology right down to the browser privacy policy. I check the ranks of all the sites I manage and low and behold one of the sites description and ranks disappeared. So I started to look for some answers as to why this would happen when I found the following.

Site Name and Description
Alexa displays site names and descriptions from the Open Directory. If you would like us to display a site name or description for your site, please go to the Open Directory, find the appropriate category for your site, and click the "suggest URL" link at the top of the page. (We highly recommend reading their submission guidelines first.) Once Open Directory updates their data, your changes will be reflected in all Alexa services when we next receive a periodic update from them.

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Well I got quite turned off on this piece of information as the site I had submitted, had to have been totally deleted from the submissions area of dmoz.

You ask why do I think this. This is were they get the Site Name and Description.

I know some thing is up because one site I own has never been listed and has a description with a title. This does not give me any hope that one day my site will possibly get listed.

So you ask yourself if your site is still in the "inbox or to be reviewed" or has been looked with some tool by Dmoz? Go look and see if your site has a description. The site states in their own words were they get the data from.

I hope the update link comes back on line because one listing I have has been dropped and the site has no negitive changes and has no spam or anything. This may have been in error and the Alexa description is gone as well. At least the google Dmoz look alike listing is still there.

pvgool said:

DMOZ does not have any special influence on search engines and the rankings used by them. Only the same effect as a link on any other site will have. This comes down to 2 things: it enables the SE to find your website and it will increase Google's PR (and similar rankings of other SE's) a little.

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My Google ranks do not appear to have droped yet, I do expect this to happen soon on the dropped site. I can not understand why the site was dropped as it has had a listings for years.

Alexa does not get any information from unlisted suggestions to ODP.

sfromis said:

Alexa does not get any information from unlisted suggestions to ODP.

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I am not going to post the sites here because it is not allowed and it is not a uk site, uk sites seem to stay posted.

There are 3 sites I wrote and they all have descriptions, and have never been listed in Dmoz nor will they ever be listed one I submitted and the other two were never submitted even though they meet the guide lines.

they all have descriptions, and have never been listed in Dmoz

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If so, Alexa obviously got the descriptions from somewhere else

You should ask them about it, and perhaps point out that their information is misleading.

nea said:

If so, Alexa obviously got the descriptions from somewhere else

You should ask them about it, and perhaps point out that their information is misleading.

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I am sure you check it out as well nea and can understand why I am asking. These people rank sites all over the internet and are suppose to be reputable.

I guess the phrase truth, honesty and fair play no longer play a part in social engineering.

On the sites I build and manage I keep my word I dont mislead people, spam and scam people.

It just seems that when ever something is found referring to Dmoz there is some sort of convoluted clause with a big question mark.

How do people like Alexa get away with posting stuff about dmoz on their rating website making it a practice of operation such as Alexa.

A lot of problems could be solved just by doing away with this site ranking garbage altogether and letting everybody play from the same level playing field, instead of allowing some to work the system to the disadvantage of the many.

It brings to mind a mob of mad wolves trampling on the rights of the less knowledgible to get an advantage for themselves. Kind of disgusting really.

crowbar said:

A lot of problems could be solved just by doing away with this site ranking garbage altogether and letting everybody play from the same level playing field, instead of allowing some to work the system to the disadvantage of the many.

It brings to mind a mob of mad wolves trampling on the rights of the less knowledgible to get an advantage for themselves. Kind of disgusting really.

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As long as there is big money there will always be ranks, the cast system exists in every facet of human evolution.


Speaking of wolves did they ever get the problem under control again after bringing back the grey wolf to Upsate NYS

Before I left it cost me about 400 bucks for a rear end after a large grey wolf got run over and sucked up it to my under carrrige.

The wolf chased a big buck out in front of my vehical, I missed the deer and hit the wolf on rt370 Upstate NY.

Lots of coyoties and deer, no wolves yet, .

Do you have any questions about how to write ODP compliant title/descriptions, timamie261, or choosing a category to submit a site suggestion to? You can improve your chances of a possible listing, and perhaps the speed of the process overall by doing so.

crowbar said:

Do you have any questions about how to write ODP compliant title/descriptions, timamie261, or choosing a category to submit a site suggestion to? You can improve your chances of a possible listing, and perhaps the speed of the process overall by doing so.

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I kept every thing right, I made sure to use keywords only found in the text of the page and I made sure the site was not spammy. I used other sites to test my site for a spammy index page. I have made sure that the whole page follows a credible standards.

I have added very unique content not found on other sites, "how to" and "how not to", fraud prevention, Seller tips, list of agencies, DMV information for every state, DA offices for every state, plate gallery, law enforcement, vendor resources, last car ads, truck ads, motorcycle ads, race car ads, comprihensive support pages from firewall problems to spyware, a privacy policy explaining every thing we do adn a browser privacy policy. People who post ads who don’t have web sites can sign up and get a free web page for free in our members area. I even wrote a rate your automobiles condition guide. I have people from vendors from Syracuse, PA, NJ. Live RSS feeds up to the minute feeds. Darn the site is now like Prego spaghetti sauce don’t ask it is in there. In in effort to control spam people can not have an email from our domain that is a open can of worms. I have sites come by and check out site from time to time to check and rate the site. So far every thing looks 100%. There is still more all the time and stuff I have failed to list here.

I have seen others here give a suggestion or two on site information, and categories for other sites. I have seen sites get added quick, and others not at all.

I have had so far 4 sites attempt to steal content from me, all 4 were knocked down by their Hosting ISPS. 2 sites have stolen content from my site that remaining.

Ons site took our DBA made a domain of it and parked it on a porn site, we must be doing something write.

One site who has committed frauds against their customers. You will love this "I have to charge you for ads placed on there site because they charge me" This guy got his ads for free and charged every one of his customers and average of 20 bucks and ad placed on my site. He was suppose to provide a link back to might site in trade for free ads and later he would convert his free ads to 4 bucks an ad. In the interest of the customers he burned I suspended his account, extended the ad length so the customers would have a real chance to sell the cars and gave his customers free accounts to renew for free.

So in short my site is good enough for people to steal code, graphics and what, they even pick up the phone and call the customers to place there ads on their site.

Compeditors feel me a threat and so does the News papers telling me I can not advertise with them.

So in short my site is good enough for people to steal code, graphics, ect...., they even pick up the phone and call the customers to place there ads on their site.


I wish that some one could look and tell me what I have done wrong so I could correct the wrong, I don't believe a site that is non list able is never correctable.

If there is some thing wroung with it, it has to be so minor I have missed it.

If any one is going to horse whip, flame or burn me over this then just delete the post and dont waste the bytes

Without mentioning your site URL, what category did you submit your site suggestion to?

What type of site is it? A car dealership? An ad agency for buyers and sellers of vehicles?

In one sentence, tell me what the site is.
In the next sentence, tell me some of the main features that I might find on the site.

timamie261 said:

I wish that some one could look and tell me what I have done wrong so I could correct the wrong, I don't believe a site that is non list able is never correctable.

If there is some thing wroung with it, it has to be so minor I have missed it.

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Why do you think it is rejected?
If a site is listable (you can check the guidelines yourself if it is, from your posting I think you already did check) the most probable reason a site is not listed is that it is not reviewed yet.

crowbar said:

Without mentioning your site URL, what category did you submit your site suggestion to?

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http://www.dmoz.com/Shopping/Classifieds/Automotive/Classics/

Ahh, one of the spam magnets (shopping/classifieds).
Go and search yourself to see how many sites there are pretending to belong in that category. You can be alsmost sure that they al suggested their site once (and probably more than once). And now find the realy usefull sites.

pvgool said:

Ahh, one of the spam magnets (shopping/classifieds).
Go and search yourself to see how many sites there are pretending to belong in that category. You can be alsmost sure that they al suggested their site once (and probably more than once). And now find the realy usefull sites.

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I am sorry I did not know it was a spam magnet.

This sheds some light in to why my editor app was rejected as well now.

I did follow the guidelines and put my site there should I put it some where else then.

This is more then likely one of the reasons.

That might explain why it hasn't been listed, it's possible that no editor wants to work in that category, or they just avoid it, because it's so spam filled, and your site just hasn't been reviewed yet.

I'm not fond of editing over in NYC for the same reason, and absolutely hate Vacation Rental categories, they're just filled with intentional misinformation, mirrors, vanity mirrors, redirects, ect. It's like wading through mud, very unpleasant and slow work.

This sheds some light in to why my editor app was rejected as well now.

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Yes, only experienced editors can handle those types of categories.

crowbar said:

That might explain why it hasn't been listed, it's possible that no editor wants to work in that category, or they just avoid it, because it's so spam filled, and your site just hasn't been reviewed yet.

I'm not fond of editing over in NYC for the same reason, and absolutely hate Vacation Rental categories, they're just filled with intentional misinformation, mirrors, vanity mirrors, redirects, ect. It's like wading through mud, very unpleasant and slow work.



Yes, only experienced editors can handle those types of categories.

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So would there be another category that I might submit to that would not be considered spaming Dmoz and my site would fit.

timamie261 said:

So would there be another category that I might submit to that would not be considered spaming Dmoz and my site would fit.

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No, you are only allowed to suggest a site to the ONE best category.
Suggesting it to a unrelated category will be seen as spam. The suggestion won't be deleted but it will be moved to the correct category.