Multiple listings

SwtRose

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Why it is some websites have multiple listings in Dmoz? I did have my site listed in two sections of DMOZ but you dropped one of my listings.
 

spectregunner

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We grant many sites a listing in the topical area of the directory and also in the regional section based on the location of the place of business.

Sites that are in more than one language can also receive additional listings in the World/ section.

Sites (increasinly non-commercial) that editor find with particularly useful content are granted additional listings on the basis of that content. Those asking for additioanl content-based listings rarely have worthy enpough content.

There are also a host of other exceptions, most documente, many not.
 

Namaste

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I'm new to this forum, but I must say that I have seen several sites listed for multiple categories, and many other sites in the same boat, are listed only in one category.

Is it necessary to submit to multiple categories? Why can't editors identify multiple categories that will be useful to searchers and list the sites under those?

I also question the poilcy of single "major" category listing. I often use directories to find businesses/sites. If a site is not listed in a category, I end up not finding it. This has happened more than once.

I prefer the yellow pages system, where businesses/services are listed under every relevant category.

I know there may be some policies which have possibly originated due to sites "spamming" DMOZ, but these need to be carefully crafted to deliver the ultimate benefit of human review: categorization for ease of finding
 

hutcheson

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The rule in the submittal policy is: submit to one category. One only. You must follow the submittal policy (or not submit at all, your choice.)

There are some exceptions, mentioned above, where editors actually appreciate multiple submittals.

The ODP goal is one listing per unique site. We tried the other way; in topics at all related to "website development", it was a disaster: by now editors have repaired much (but by no means all) of the related damage. And so the rules in that area are pretty strict. It is much more likely that we'll be repairing more damage, than reversing course again and revisiting that nightmare.

"Pick the topic that best fits the majority of the work. Mention other work done in the description."
 

Namaste

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I am suggesting otherwise:

- submit to a solitary category
- suggest additional categories for review
- leave it to the editors to list in additional categories if suitable
 

hutcheson

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I should mention, that the potential for problems is infinitely greater in Shopping categories -- it's so obvious that THAT one was seen from the beginning. And so there are very very specific, very often repeated injunctions from staff to editors: You shall not list a business more than once in Shopping!

Imagine how many listings walmart.com would get if they submitted to every category they could, based on how you think your site should be represented. Then go see how many listings they actually have.

And face reality.

There are some things that the ODP is simply not good for. Finding retail BUSINESSES, it's good for. Finding specific ITEMS for sale -- Froogle beats us all hollow, and we won't even try to compete with them.

But we won't be offended at all if you use froogle when you're shopping for specific items: we'll think you're a smart surfer who's more likely to use the ODP for what IT'S best at.
 

craigwork

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Related Question

I was just contemplating a different submit in an additional category for my website.

We've been waiting in the category that summarizes our website for about 2 years, and I know that re-submitting to a new category would void all that waiting time and remove the first submission.

The contemplation comes in that;
1. I could be waiting forever for my first submission to get in.
2. There's subcategories of our website that have relevant directories too.
3. We have more useful information than the sites in several directories.

E.g., we have a travel site. Submitted to the appropriate category (waiting). I've since noticed directories for the Lodges that we feature, and think our resources would benefit directory users better than others listed.

If I hadn't already read the 'Submission Guidelines', etc., I'd now be asking for suggestions, but I know everyone is just going to say: "Keep waiting, check back in 6 months again". But this is one case where 'I' think the exception to the rule could be applied.

But then who’s to say I’d ever get our site listed in another category either. I just wish there was something I could do…
 

hutcheson

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For lodging directories, the market was saturated about five years ago, and creation of them has skyrocketed since then.

As a result, the ODP can afford to get very selective -- I really doubt if 2% of the submittals are listed. And that number will drop.

As a secondary result, the value (to our customers) of reviewing such a site is very low. Hence on the editors' priorities, these probably rank about #103 on a 100-item list.

I won't say your site won't be listed -- we don't do reviews based on forum posts, and we can't make promises. But if I were you, that's the way I would bet. Focusing on just which ODP category your site most likely isn't going to be reviewed in, or will get rejected from, is taking your attention away from building content. And -- if and when the site gets reviewed, that could be fatal.
 
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