my site was in the dmoz.org before but i can't find it anymore now....

digginchina

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my site <url removed> is in the dmoz.org before, i change my site name to <url removed> last period and request a link change on odp. it was accepted by a editor then i can find my site well. but after a while, i can't find it any more. there isn't any email notification about the reason, but it's gone. btw, i found many site which was in the same category were gone too.... there is a little site in the category wholesales now....
could you please tell me what's wrong with it?
thanks a lot
regards
 

nea

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Unfortunately, questions about specific sites are not answered here. If a site is removed from dmoz.org it is almost always for one of the following reasons: a) the link was broken (server error or similar), so a robot or editor removed it for re-review ; B) the site was found to be inappropriate for the category it was listed in, and was moved to another category; or c) the site was found to be unlistable in the directory. If it was unreviewed because of a technical error on the site, it will be relisted when an editor has re-reviewed it. If it was moved to a different category it was either listed there immediately, or else it will be listed when it has been reviewed in that category. If it was found to be inappropriate for listing in the directory, it will not be listed again.

If many sites have disappeared from a category it's likely that the category is being restructured.
 

digginchina

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Unfortunately, questions about specific sites are not answered here. If a site is removed from dmoz.org it is almost always for one of the following reasons: a) the link was broken (server error or similar), so a robot or editor removed it for re-review ; B) the site was found to be inappropriate for the category it was listed in, and was moved to another category; or c) the site was found to be unlistable in the directory. If it was unreviewed because of a technical error on the site, it will be relisted when an editor has re-reviewed it. If it was moved to a different category it was either listed there immediately, or else it will be listed when it has been reviewed in that category. If it was found to be inappropriate for listing in the directory, it will not be listed again.

If many sites have disappeared from a category it's likely that the category is being restructured.

hi nea
thanks for your kindly reply. but can't i ask someboy about the reason why my site was be removed? i didn't change the content of my site, only changed my domain name because i think it's not very well for my content. under this condition, will a site be punished to remove? if not that, is there any way to contact the editor to check what happens? if my site was removed, how long can i re-submit it after your removing?
i know i have asked many questions.... but it's very important to my site, please help me, thanks a lot.
regards
solo
 

hutcheson

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(1) Can you ask anybody what happened to any particular site here? NO. Is there any way to contact an editor to ask what happened. NO--how would having editors having to answer such irrelevant questions help them do their work? (It may be relevant to you, but whether you know the answer is irrelevant to the Open Directory work!)

(2) If you changed the domain name, then ... did you forward the old domain? If not, then ... can you guess what might have happened?

(3) Can you re-suggest the site? Yes. Once, just as if it had never been listed before.

(4) How long do you have to wait? You don't ever have to wait at all. (If something is a good thing to do ever, it is good to do NOW. If something is not good to do, then--wait forever. And then don't do it.)
 

digginchina

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(1) Can you ask anybody what happened to any particular site here? NO. Is there any way to contact an editor to ask what happened. NO--how would having editors having to answer such irrelevant questions help them do their work? (It may be relevant to you, but whether you know the answer is irrelevant to the Open Directory work!)

(2) If you changed the domain name, then ... did you forward the old domain? If not, then ... can you guess what might have happened?

(3) Can you re-suggest the site? Yes. Once, just as if it had never been listed before.

(4) How long do you have to wait? You don't ever have to wait at all. (If something is a good thing to do ever, it is good to do NOW. If something is not good to do, then--wait forever. And then don't do it.)

hi hutcheson,
after i change my site domain i have requested the domain change in dmoz and the editor accepted it. i can find my site this moment but after a while, it removed. because somebody steal our products' pictures and descriptions, i ban ip from my country China. is it influential?
thanks your kindly reply, please give me some suggestions to restore my site.
regards
solo
 

Elper

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... i ban ip from my country China. is it influential? ...
Yes, as if the editor reviewing the site is also in China, they would see the site as being down, and so wouldn't list it...
The best idea I can come up with is adding something like: [ip blocked in China] to the end of your suggested description, so warning an editor of the potential issue... :)
 
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The editors have complete editorial control, and if they decided to remove your site for ANY reason, they are free to do that. You have no recourse except to resubmit. However, resubmission would PROBABLY have your submission going through the same editor that delisted you, since editing is category based.

<No link dropping please. Next time will earn you a forum ban.>
 

hutcheson

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However, resubmission would PROBABLY have your submission going through the same editor that delisted you, since editing is category based.

This logic is flawed, for several reasons.

First, even though editing is category-based, in practice the vast majority of all editing is done by editors who AREN'T listed on the category (they have higher-level category permissions).

Second, since the vast majority of all editing is done by very-active editors, single editing activities are unlikely to make a significant impact on one's memory. "I saw this site before, and I punched it out then because I fancied a dislike for someone I've never seen in my life" ... is just not a plausible theory of motivation.

But ... the new review would be made by some editor (a different editor, or the same editor with no specific memories) who's editing by the same guidelines. If the site was properly removed according to the guidelines, the next editor, whoever it is, will probably not add it back.

If the editor removing the site didn't give a plausible reason, or gave a reason that doesn't seem appropriate at the current time, then the "new" reviewer would be more likely to review "from the start" -- but it STILL could be rejected, if the reviewer found no valid reason to list it.

But, however the probabilities work out: fact is, without additional information the probabilities are that ANY site WON'T be listed. And yet, millions of sites ARE listed--despite the probability.

What matters more than probability is reality. How does a site stand out from all the non-unique-information plagiaries in its subject area?
 
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