my site was removed..

from dmoz and the google search engine. the website in question:

http://www.walkermedia.org

offers insight and documentation into one of the biggest political scandals of our time, involving state oil leases and the mineral board of louisiana. it's very important and timely. i question my censure. does ExxonMobil or any member of the board of "Win or Lose" have influence w/ dmoz?


henry grevemberg

hgrevemberg@verizon.net

It hasn't been removed, except possibly but an automated process which detected it as being down, and (due to what I consider a bug), has not been logged in the notes. I see no indication that it's ever been listed.

If you want a status report on a submission, ask, following the rules for status reports.

We have no record of that URL ever having been listed in our directory.

It may well be that it is still awaiting editorial review. To which category did you suggest it and roughly when?

That URL has never been in the ODP, so far as the URL log shows. (We have had sleazy companies slip employees in to try to remove critical sites. But ExxonMobil does not have access, let alone influence, to our logs... ) But we can try to check further if you tell us what ODP category it was in. (Clickable link, please.)

perhaps i wasn't listed before..

forgive my error. the site listed high on google until last week - then disappeared completely. i assumed since the website ranked highly that it was listed in dmoz (it's #1 today in the yahoo search "oil lease fraud").
as far as i remember, i submitted http://www.walkermedia.org 6 months ago under a media category. i resubmitted this morning under http://dmoz.org/Society/Politics/News_and_Media/

i submitted http://walkermedia.org 6 months ago under a media category. i resubmitted this morning under ...

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Where it has been received and awaits review. But this seems to be a site about a single, regionally-focused issue. I have moved the site to http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/United_States/Louisiana/Society_and_Culture/ and it is that one you should look to for information about listing status (wait 6 months before asking for an update please). Thanks for the enquiry.

it is a regional issue..

and thank you for sorting that out - but the techniques developed by ExxonMobil in the oilfields of the South have now been used extensively to exploit mineral resources from 100's of nations across the globe. It’s of worldwide concern, immediately viable..

The site has not been listed yet, and it is pointless to discuss where it might be listed with editors who probably won't be reviewing it.

You're always free to build a taxonomy based on target audience rather than topical relevance, and classify whatever material you wish accordingly: but the ODP concept works the other way. Thus (to cite one precedent I dealt with) a shop selling pens will absolutely not be listed under "Literature", despite the webmaster's fervent desire, even though some authors do use pens.

And if the shop selling pens is in Louisiana, assuming it has a real shopfront, that is where we would list it, even though it once sold a ballpoint to a tourist from Russia and a propelling pencil to a visiting South African. Think logically - where in a directory would someone go to find information on a Louisiana issue - yep, the Louisiana section. The editor who eventually reviews the site may decide otherwise but my experience tells me that I have moved it to the best fit.

When we consider where in the Directory sites should be placed, at the top of our thoughts are where the user would look for the information contained on the site, at the bottom is where the webmaster thinks they want to be placed for maximum exposure of their product, be that goods, services, or information. Submitting a site to a category you want to be in, rather than the one that best fits, is a recipe for delay - invariably the site is moved once it has been reviewed, and sits and waits again in the best fit category until another editor comes along and reviews it again - 2 waits for the price of 1.

very informative..

i'm glad i decided to post to this forum. i originally thought you were responsible for google's directory - but it seems you are only a small portion of that. i submitted an email directly to google on the same day as my first post here, and my site was reinstated almost immediately (a bot was sent within a few hours). i'm sure the workings of the google empire have befuddled even editors such as yourself.
as far as selling pens, time will tell.

We're responsible for all of Google's DIRECTORY, but no part at all of Google's SEARCH ENGINE, which is where your site apparently was. The mysteries of the search engines puzzle us as much as anybody.

Most people use Google's search engine more than the directory. (The same can probably be said of Yahoo also.) The directory site listing, when it comes, would give a slight boost to the search engine rating -- but no more (according to Googletechs) than any other outside link.