I also have been very patient waiting for any kind of reply or listing for over a year now. I have submited my site www.discountpewter.com to a category with no editor. However I chose the correct category how do I go about getting any info on what I could do to get in the ODP. The category I am submitting to is Shopping: Antiques and Collectibles: Figurines: Pewter which describes the entire content of my site. I also no that I need the ODP to list me or you don't seem to rank well. Any help on what to do would be appreciated.
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All your questions are answered in our FAQ and in many others postings made here at R-Z.
I don't know who has told you this but it is not true. An ODP might help but is certainly not essential for a good ranking in search engines.
a) Create a site with unique content and never stop adding more unique content to it
b) Suggest the site to us in the best possible match category. Once.
c) Go and focus on other marketing avenues - DMOZ does not guarantee a listing ever and even to be reviewed can take from a few hours to a few years and there is no status information available in the interim. Forgetting about it saves needless frustration.
d) Find a webmaster forum that will teach you how to get your site noticed without a DMOZ listing because you cannot rely on it, and it isn't the crock of gold some people would have you believe.
b) Suggest the site to us in the best possible match category. Once.
c) Go and focus on other marketing avenues - DMOZ does not guarantee a listing ever and even to be reviewed can take from a few hours to a few years and there is no status information available in the interim. Forgetting about it saves needless frustration.
d) Find a webmaster forum that will teach you how to get your site noticed without a DMOZ listing because you cannot rely on it, and it isn't the crock of gold some people would have you believe.
The submittal policy says, right up front, "no site is guaranteed a listing." That's true.
That means, no matter what you do, no matter what the circumstances -- a listing is not something you "achieve." It is something an editor creates.
You can make sure an editor who wants to look at sites like yours, can find yours. You do this by suggesting the site. Once. Maybe once more, months later. That's all it takes.
There's no way you could be "struggling" to do that. That's really not that hard: Submit. Do something else for six months. Submit. Do something else for a lifetime.
My first advice is to take what you think you know and revalidate it against reality.
(1) Many people rank quite well in Google without ODP listings.
(2) It doesn't matter how many million sites a search finds. Only ten of them are going to rank in the top ten. (3) It would be abusive of an ODP editor to work with a view towards affecting which ten sites ranked on top for any search.
So this forum really doesn't deal with Google rank issues. It's not our job, as it ought not to be.
That means, no matter what you do, no matter what the circumstances -- a listing is not something you "achieve." It is something an editor creates.
You can make sure an editor who wants to look at sites like yours, can find yours. You do this by suggesting the site. Once. Maybe once more, months later. That's all it takes.
There's no way you could be "struggling" to do that. That's really not that hard: Submit. Do something else for six months. Submit. Do something else for a lifetime.
My first advice is to take what you think you know and revalidate it against reality.
(1) Many people rank quite well in Google without ODP listings.
(2) It doesn't matter how many million sites a search finds. Only ten of them are going to rank in the top ten. (3) It would be abusive of an ODP editor to work with a view towards affecting which ten sites ranked on top for any search.
So this forum really doesn't deal with Google rank issues. It's not our job, as it ought not to be.
I would have to agree with all the posted replies when it comes to issues about getting your site listed, etc. It does clearly state that you are not guranteed to get listed, or in what time frame. I do not agree with the fact that an ODP listing does not carry MAJOR weight in organic search result position. When it comes to Google position an ODP listing is, in fact, a crock of gold.
pvgool... Yes! I agree. Sites without a DMOZ listing can rank just as good.
I've only observed from my own experience that a DMOZ listing is one of the most powerful tools in search position. It seems to carry more weight than most other forms of SEO.
I've only observed from my own experience that a DMOZ listing is one of the most powerful tools in search position. It seems to carry more weight than most other forms of SEO.
I know that some people believe what you believe. I know that some people do not believe what you believe. I know that I don't care enough to define my own belief.
I know that the ODP is a valuable net resource. I know that it is free for anyone to use in almost any fashion. I know various search engines have used it in various ways at various times. Some search engines that used to use it are gone; others no longer use it in the same way. They are all free to use it in a different way tomorrow than they do today.
We focus on providing a valuable resource, and are happy to see someone else finding a clever way of using it. But users come and go, and it would be a betrayal of the ODP ideal, to modify six years of working towards one goal, to go chasing after a particular user.
I know that the ODP is a valuable net resource. I know that it is free for anyone to use in almost any fashion. I know various search engines have used it in various ways at various times. Some search engines that used to use it are gone; others no longer use it in the same way. They are all free to use it in a different way tomorrow than they do today.
We focus on providing a valuable resource, and are happy to see someone else finding a clever way of using it. But users come and go, and it would be a betrayal of the ODP ideal, to modify six years of working towards one goal, to go chasing after a particular user.
Ya know, have you ever considered the opposite effect?
... that some ODP editors might just do a few keyword searches on Google from time to time, and skim off all the interesting sites in the top 100 and list them in the ODP, if they had been previously missed?
That is, they get listed irrespctive of having been submitted or not, and are listed in the ODP because they were top in Google.... not that they are top in Google because they are listed in the ODP.
No. I'll bet it never crossed your mind.
... that some ODP editors might just do a few keyword searches on Google from time to time, and skim off all the interesting sites in the top 100 and list them in the ODP, if they had been previously missed?
That is, they get listed irrespctive of having been submitted or not, and are listed in the ODP because they were top in Google.... not that they are top in Google because they are listed in the ODP.
No. I'll bet it never crossed your mind.
Giz... good point.
My impression (being very new to this DMOZ stuff), is that the ODP is not like some "company" that adds listings like it's an internet phonebook where EVERYONE gets listed no matter what, with set proceedures and a "company" manual to follow. No, it's just a whole bunch of pople that are very different from each other, with different interest, and different ways of doing things. Just like any other community, it has good folks and bad folks.
When it comes to considering all the different ways an editor may approach his/her category, my guess is that the editing is just as diverse as the community that's editing it. So... almost anything can happen.
My observation is not that the ODP is THE end-all SEO directory, and though there are plenty of other ways to get high ranking, the ODP is clearly one of the very top influences in search engine result position. I've tested it, and it's just plain true.
My impression (being very new to this DMOZ stuff), is that the ODP is not like some "company" that adds listings like it's an internet phonebook where EVERYONE gets listed no matter what, with set proceedures and a "company" manual to follow. No, it's just a whole bunch of pople that are very different from each other, with different interest, and different ways of doing things. Just like any other community, it has good folks and bad folks.
When it comes to considering all the different ways an editor may approach his/her category, my guess is that the editing is just as diverse as the community that's editing it. So... almost anything can happen.
My observation is not that the ODP is THE end-all SEO directory, and though there are plenty of other ways to get high ranking, the ODP is clearly one of the very top influences in search engine result position. I've tested it, and it's just plain true.