No listing after waiting over 9 months

Hi,

I submitted a site for review over 9 months ago (July 2009) and still cannot find it listed. I appreciate that volunteers review these submissions and these things take time but 9 months?! Can anyone help me out in having my site listed?

Some volunteer will process your listing suggestion in time but we can't predict who or when that might be. Elapsed times can range from a few days to a few years. There is no need to re-suggest your website and doing so could be counter-productive because a later suggestion overwrites any earlier one.

Do editors email website owners whether their websites have been accepted/declined? I submitted my website sometime in 2009; I'm sure it is not in the directory yet, but I'm unsure whether it was declined or is still in queue.

Regards,

G

No, editors don't mail website owners, or suggestion makers (we do NOT assume the two are in any way related). If a site is listable (or a suggestion gave useful help), the WORLD will know about it.

If a site is not listable, or a suggestion is useless, the less said about it, the less time wasted on it, the better for everyone.

If a site is not listable

I believe that statement is relative. According to any website owner, their site is listable. My question is, are rejected site owners told their websites have been rejected? How do I know whether my website is rejected or still in queue?

G

Granzyme said:

Do editors email website owners whether their websites have been accepted/declined? I submitted my website sometime in 2009; I'm sure it is not in the directory yet, but I'm unsure whether it was declined or is still in queue.

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There-in lies the "fault(?)" in the ODP listing / verification process. Editors are NOT obliged to notify you when and if your site has been reviewed and / or rejected. Infact, the ONLY way to find out whether your site has been reviewed is when it is listed. This does not cater for rejected sites, and the policy is, if your site does not meet the editor's / ODP's standards for listing (as set out), LIMBO for you ma-friend!

Obiter-dicta: Having interacted with a few editors on these pages, I have come to the interim conclusion that ODP Listing requirements (standards) are what the category editor interprets them as (which can mean different things to different editors).

Thanks for the reply.

I wanted to know because, according to my log files, someone visited by website today through:

editors.dmoz.org/editors/apply_queue.cgi?number=xxxxxxxxxxxxx

it means my website is still in queue since 2009! Not sure what the status of my website is.

G

editors.dmoz.org/editors/apply_queue.cgi is the new editor application queue. Presumably it means that your site was used on someone's application to become an editor.

Fantabublast said:

Obiter-dicta: Having interacted with a few editors on these pages, I have come to the interim conclusion that ODP Listing requirements (standards) are what the category editor interprets them as (which can mean different things to different editors).

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Is that like saying you didn't get the answer you wanted?

If your expectation is that 2 plus 2 is 5, you should be prepared for disappointment when you ask a mathmatician.

Listing requirements (standards)

All editors are working to the same guidelines and listing suggestions are not declined arbitrarily.
1 Those with non-compliant titles/descriptions (most of them) are rewritten.
2 Those suggested to the wrong category are moved.
3 Those lacking unique content, affiliate link farms and MFAs etc are declined - as are those under heavy construction and visiting cards.

We make the presumption that the website owner already knows about any issues in item3 and so there's no need to communicate. Further, doing so consumes effort that could have been used productively for editing (which is what we're here for) and far too many bad experiences have taught us that communicating with website owners can all too easily end acrimoniously. Threats of violence, spam storms and actual stalking are not unknown.

According to any website owner, their site is listable.

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That's generally true. For ODP purposes, that can always be assumed--then must be immediately discarded as irrelevant.

That's why there's no point in discussing individual sites with their owners. They want a listing, nothing else. We want to build a directory to ODP standards, nothing else.

There may be some common ground, some common interest-- but the website owner can't be relied on to recognize it. That's why the communication goes only one way: the website owner states his interest ("consider listing this site.") When he's said that, he's said all on that subject that will ever be needed or useful.

But there is no reason to respond. Remember, the webmaster doesn't have anything significant to say. "My site is listable?" That's not a significant fact, they ALWAYS say that. So every time you review a site and don't list it, then mentally carry out the required conversation. Pretend you heard the webmaster say "I want that site listed." Then pretend to reply, "that's OK, but irrelevant. All that is allowed to matter in ODP editing is the ODP guidelines."

Pretend to get harassed or even stalked about 1% of the time, also, if you want this to be a perfectly realistic imagined scenario.

[added] Simultaneous posting, I didn't intend to correct Jim. Obviously we have different ways of describing things, but also obviously, it's the same reality that we all must face.

Granzyme said:

How do I know whether my website is rejected or still in queue?

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Our guidelines describe which website we will not list.
http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html#notinclude
If your website is amongst the types of sites we will not list it will be rejected. In all other cases it is either still waiting review or listed.

The Old Sarge said:

Is that like saying you didn't get the answer you wanted?

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I do get the answers for the questions that I ask, however, if they are un-satisfactory to me, then that is what they are, (I would think that would mean no skin off your nose, but then again, I have got a few things wrong at times too) so no need to throw handbags at me for saying so.

Fantabublast said:

..... ODP Listing requirements (standards) are what the category editor interprets them as (which can mean different things to different editors).

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The proof of the pudding, like they say, is in the eating.

hutcheson said:

Obviously we have different ways of describing things, but also obviously, it's the same reality that we all must face.

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