No Response Regarding Editor Application

Eric Schifone · Dec 3, 2015

Hi,

I've been in discussion with the editor for the DMOZ facebook page regarding my application to become an editor of the "Business > Construction and Maintenance > Materials and Supplies > Concrete > Decorative Finishes" category with no response (it's been months now). Is there anyway to look into my application and possibly help expedite the process?

Sincerely,

Eric S.

Elper · Dec 3, 2015

It'll help if you can narrow down the application date and supply the editor name you used

Eric Schifone · Dec 3, 2015

Thank you for responding. The date was 10/9/2015. I'm actually not sure if the editor name is anything different than my name Eric Schifone. Thanks again!

Elper · Dec 4, 2015

It's still awaiting review - times for this are both variable and unpredictable due to the volunteer concept...
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Eric Schifone · Dec 7, 2015

I've tried applying several times over the last couple of years with no response and your facebook admin "indirectly" mentioned that the review process may be expedited if I reach out to you here on the forums. Is this true, if so, who should I contact to request having my application expedited?

Priscilla Brown · Dec 7, 2015

Eric, I have applied on 23rd August 2015 and still waiting for the email

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Eric Schifone · Dec 8, 2015

Hi Priscilla, I've applied twice a year for the last 5 years with no response

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mollybdenum · Dec 8, 2015

There is always a response. Either that the application has been accepted or that it has been rejected. Sometimes the email that is sent gets put in the spam mail bin.

pvgool · Dec 9, 2015

Eric Schifone said:
Hi Priscilla, I've applied twice a year for the last 5 years with no response

I doubt you did apply to bcome an editor 10 times in the last 5 years and never did receive a reply.
I guess you meant that you did suggest a website so many times. Something that we strongly advise not to do. One suggestion of a website is enough.

Eric Schifone · Dec 21, 2015

Hi,

No, I have never received a response for a website submission or to become an editor until reaching out on this forum. I reached out to be an editor solely due to the fact that there was no response when attempting to submit our company listing. I have fully read the guidelines and knew there was a strong possibility that my application would declined due to the affiliation with my company.

That said.... I am still extremely disappointed that our listing has not been reviewed and inserted into the appropriate sections of the DMOZ directory. I have submitted request for the appropriate categories and have had no response with that as well. Can someone there please assist me with this matter? Our competitors are listed and we are not. I would greatly appreciate any assistance regarding this matter.

Eric Schifone · Dec 21, 2015

One last thing.. We are a great company providing the highest quality products within our niche market backed by what we feel is the best customer service in our industry. I have always looked at the DMOZ as a great resource to find quality companies within select industries. I feel strongly about having our company included on the DMOZ as a great opportunity to provide DMOZ visitors a valuable resource within the concrete sealer / decorative concrete sealer categories. Thank you.

mollybdenum · Dec 21, 2015

There is no notification when a site is reviewed. Since all editors are volunteers, the sites are reviewed as an editor wishes to work in a category.
The fact that someone applies to become an editor and is affiliated with a company that would fit into the category applied for, is not a problem.
We only ask that all entries and suggestions are treated equally by editors.
All applications to become an editor received an email once processed, either with an acceptance or a denial message.

Eric Schifone · Dec 22, 2015

This is a very likely case that one of our competitors is the acting admin for our related categories and is not including our business to prevent us from growing our network. Is there a way to contact the admin for the "Business > Construction and Maintenance > Materials and Supplies > Concrete > Decorative Finishes" category?

I feel that there is unfair treatment taking place and I'm getting poor excuses and the runaround vs helping us become included into the DMOZ.

Progress requires action and I would appreciate any action that can be taken from within the DMOZ.

Elper · Dec 22, 2015

We have several hundred editors with directory-wide permissions, so there is no specific editor entirely in charge of anything - and I can assure you that none of your competitors has taken control of http://www.dmoz.org/Business/Constr...ls_and_Supplies/Concrete/Decorative_Finishes/

I agree it's unfair that we list some sites and not others, but it's just a question of available volunteer hours over huge volumes of potentially listable sites to review.
As far as progress goes, you should have received a mail around the 9th of December with reasons why your application to be editor of the category was turned down?

Eric Schifone · Dec 23, 2015

Yes, I received the email, with no direct reason. Either way, I'm not as concerned to become an editor at this point as to have my company's website included into the DMOZ directory within this category.

A couple of posts up I mentioned that I/we never get a response when submitting our company to the appropriate category ("Business > Construction and Maintenance > Materials and Supplies > Concrete > Decorative Finishes"). At this point I am reaching out to get someone to help me with this matter. I can resubmit our entry for immediate review (our description is not pitchy and our listing previously submitted appears like every other listed in the category).

Can you assist me with this?

mollybdenum · Dec 23, 2015

What you ask is against our practices and ethics. You request special treatment of your website over and above all the others. We cannot fulfill such a request. Be patient, wait for the site suggestion to be processed. Go about your other business and forget about DMOZ. The listing is not going to make a real difference for your company if it is listed, no matter what you may have heard or read on some other websites.

pvgool · Dec 24, 2015

> I mentioned that I/we never get a response when submitting our company to the appropriate category

This is in fact not true
When suggesting a website a conformation is shown on screen that DMOZ has received the suggestion.

And that is all you ever will get. We do not send messages when a suggestion is reviewed.
People can know if a suggestion is listable or not. There is no reason for us to tell people that we noticed they suggested a non-listable website. There is also no reason to tell people we listed a website as they can see that themself. If a suggested listable website is not listed than it must be still waiting review.
Time between suggestion and review can vary between a few days and several years.
Suggesting a website more than once is against the DMOZ guidelines and can make the time between first suggestion and review longer.

Eric Schifone · Jan 6, 2016

"mollybdenum" why would I forget about the DMOZ? What I'm saying is... I've submitted our company and have had no response for several years. I think I've waited enough! The issue I'm seeing is.. no new companies are being published in our relevant categories. This is a display of unfair treatment. I don't need confirmation about submitting our listing, I just want my company listing to be posted, that's all.

pvgool · Jan 6, 2016

What you are asking is of no cencern to DMOZ and its editors.
We are not about listing websites for reasons of their owners.
DMOZ is about providing an overview of websites to people searching for some kind of information.
With the enormous amounts of websites being suggested everyday to the whole directory editors will not be able to look at all those suggestions within a specific timeframe. Editors look at specific subjects (categories) and will improve those. Which subject is completely up to each individual editor, as is the way (s)he decides to improve the category. That could either be by looking at the suggested websites, but an editor may also ignore the suggestions and start looking on the internet for websites to be listed.

snooks · Jan 14, 2016

Eric Schifone said:
"mollybdenum" why would I forget about the DMOZ? What I'm saying is... I've submitted our company and have had no response for several years. I think I've waited enough! The issue I'm seeing is.. no new companies are being published in our relevant categories. This is a display of unfair treatment. I don't need confirmation about submitting our listing, I just want my company listing to be posted, that's all.

You may think you have waited enough! The project is run by Volunteers, that is human beings doing their hobby in their spare time. YOU have no right to tell anyone, any Volunteer, when to review your site simply because you think it has been long enough. DMOZ is not, does not and never will be a Directory where a review, or inclusion of a site, is guaranteed.

mollybdennum was quite correct when she said to move along and simply forget about it. Hopefully one day your site may be included. You have suggested the site, there is absolutely nothing else that you can do that can help and in fact, anything that you do will only be detrimental so the same as advice is offered from me.....Move along and promote your site by other methods.

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