Not listed, new domain, resubmit?

Hi, I have changed domain name a few days ago. The old one was a free domain I have got from dynDns.org: mec.mine.nu

The new one I have bought from goDaddy: www.webprovince.com

The old domain, mec.mine.nu, is still pointing to my site. I use a 301 and a redirect for clients requesting a page prefixed with the old domain name to the new www.webprovince.com domain name.

This is the jsp(Java Server Pages) code I use to do the redirect:
<%
String requestedHost = request.getHeader("host");
if(requestedHost != null && requestedHost.equalsIgnoreCase("mec.mine.nu") || requestedHost.equalsIgnoreCase("webprovince.com")) {
response.setStatus(response.SC_MOVED_PERMANENTLY);
response.addHeader("Location","http://www.webprovince.com" + request.getRequestURI());
}
%>

Note that it is still the same site on the same physical location, the only thing changed is the domain name.

I submitted the old domain - mec.mine.nu - to dmoz about 2 weeks ago, and of course I haven't got listed yet.

The title I used in the submission of the old domain name was the same as the domain name, i.e. mec.mine.nu. Of course I would like to change this, but I don't know how to change a submission when you not have got listed.

My questions are if I should submit again to dmoz with the new domain name, www.webprovince.com, even thou it point to the same site as mec.mine.nu does?
Could this be considered spamming?
Any suggestions on what I should do?I know they have an update listing service, but since I am not listed yet...
If the moderators have time I would like to know for sure if a resubmit would be appropriate?

I wouldn't see a problem resuggesting the correct domain 1 time. However, if both domains are still up, active and the old domain doesn't redirect or otherwise explain that it is old then it will be difficult for an editor to determine which is the real one and which is the mirror.

I would suggest that in your new suggestion that you include a notation that explains the situation (since it is very unlikely that a reviewing editor would have ever seen this thread) and also if not already done-I would change the old site to point to the new or to show that it has in fact been moved permanently to the new one.



Hope that helps.

I would suggest that in your new suggestion that you include a notation that explains the situation (since it is very unlikely that a reviewing editor would have ever seen this thread) and also if not already done-I would change the old site to point to the new or to show that it has in fact been moved permanently to the new one.

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Actually, he already wrote that the old site redirects to the new one.

Hehe-oops read it and didn't register it Better get back to my morning cup of coffee

Just ignore everything below line 1:

I wouldn't see a problem resuggesting the correct domain 1 time.

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Suggesting the new domain one time won't cause any problems that I could see. Since the old one IS redirecting as motsa points out (eloquently I might add ) the reviewing editor should make the change anyway but I see no problem in suggesting the new one-I would still make a notation that the old one may still be waiting review and why.

**Ouch-that pointy stick thing does sting a bit**

Notation?

Where in the form for suggestion can I put a notation to the editor that I am doing a "permanently moved redirect" for clients entering my site with my old domain, i.e. mec.mine.nu?

motsa said:

Actually, he already wrote that the old site redirects to the new one.

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might it be worth him pointing out in the updated submission that the re-direct is a javascript one just in case the cat editor has JS turned off?

Not javascript

It is not client-side javascript(.js), it is server-side Java Server Pages (.jsp). No matter if a client has active scripting turned off when requesting pages, the code will execute.


My question is still:

Where in the form for suggestion can I put a notation to the editor that I am doing a "permanently moved redirect" for clients entering my site with my old domain, i.e. mec.mine.nu?

On the end of the proposed description [like this] .

Didn't work

I tried with this note within brackets after my site description like u suggested, but it didn't work.

[
I have been told by jimNoble and shadow575 - the first one a moderator and the latter an editor in dmoz forum - that I should make a note here that I use a permanently moved header followed by a redirect header to www.webprovince.com for people entering my site with my old url, mec.mine.nu. This I do to not lose the indexed pages from the old domain.
The old domain name, i.e. mec.mine.nu is not yet listed when I am writing this. However, it is submitted about 2 weeks ago.
I was told this would not be considered spamming, even though both mec.mine.nu and www.webprovince.com point to the same location.
The purpose of this note is also to clarify that I am not using mirrored sites/dublicate content(since I use a permanently moved header).

Best Regards
Martin Carlsson
Stockholm, Sweden
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Got a "bad title or description message".

Ok I know it is long, but I didn't think the words between the brackets would count. Is the number of words the problem? Do I need to keep the total number of words(my description and the note to the editor) under 30 words?

Should I simply write something like this instead?
[This suggested URL should overwrite my old one, mec.mine.nu]

*edited*

I would try something like:

Quote:

[mec.mine.nu may already be waiting here for review but now redirects www.webprovince.com and should be replaced with this suggestion]

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Short, sweet and to the point. The reviewing editor really doesn't need to know that someone here at RZ suggested you to note it. You are just pointing out to them something that they would eventually find on their own, so you really don't have to detail the reason but instead just highlight it so it might be easier for them to see.

Hope that helps.


Jim's response was better I would follow his advice.

[Replaces mec.mine.nu] would be even better. We suggested a note, not an essay .

Done

Ok, it's done. And now the long wait...I just hope my fake frames layout doesn't ruin it for me..


Thanks for the help

Martin

Martin, don't think about what the EDITOR will see. Think about what the SURFER will see. Do you want only ODP editors to know what the right URL is?

What you've done should be sufficient for the editor (although we don't know when it will be reviewed, so there's no point in guessing...). But I'd suggest, for the sake of the ordinary surfers (who are more likely to be customers than the editor is!) -- make sure when they visit the site, they see the new URL: for instance, somewhere in the logo or footer or "main page" or "home" link, on the "about us" page, etc.

Again, this is not about the ODP listing. This is directly for the surfers (and if it weren't for the surfers' benefit, there wouldn't BE an ODP to list in!)

hutcheson said:

Martin, don't think about what the EDITOR will see. Think about what the SURFER will see. Do you want only ODP editors to know what the right URL is?

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Sorry, hutcheson but I don't understand what you mean. The reason for this thread was to make sure I could suggest my new domain without it being seen as dublicate/mirrored content and/or spamming.

Of course I have designed mainly for SURFERS, not ODP editors. However, I want both the SURFER and ODP editors to know the correct URL. The reason for that is the same as the reason for this thread.
Besides, I have the logo "WebProvince" inside the header, which has a fixed position and is included on every page.

Anyway, thanks again for the replies

Martin

Well Martin, it certainly seems as though you are on the right track. Now comes teh difficult part: waiting.