Not listed, no editor 9 months later

Now I'm a pretty patient person... hell I'm understanding. But what I don't get is what you are supposed to do if you follow all the rules and wait for a listing.

I have tried several times over the past year to be listed in my proper DMOZ category. The funny thing is that there aren't any editors in either of the two places my website would be suggestable.

So I contacted the editor above my category and.... drumroll.... no answer, no help.

Then I tried to become the editor of my category... no dice, even though I am highly qualified for the position.

So my question... oh mighty DMOZians... is how am I supposed to get my website listed if there is no entrypoint? Hmmmmmm?

Now I'm a pretty patient person... hell I'm understanding.

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Me too .

But what I don't get is what you are supposed to do if you follow all the rules and wait for a listing.

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Do nothing.

Once you've suggested your website, that's all you need do; bugging specific editors is unlikely to expedite matters. Every website owner thinks that his website is the most important on the planet and deserves priority but they can't all be right .

I'm not a patient person. I'm getting tired of my hours and hours of work sitting around waiting for someone else to spend a few minutes publishing it on his website.

(Which doesn't happen to be dmoz.org.)

And I'm waiting for someone else to spend a few minutes reviewing my work for publication at yet another website, which also happens not to be dmoz.org.

But it costs me nothing to wait. I can still eat, sleep, play, work--or even spend hours and hours creating more content for someone else to spend a few minutes reviewing and/or publishing. It's almost as if I weren't waiting.

I've actually gone beyond that. I've made myself a little promise. I'm going to ALWAYS have something waiting for other people to review/publish. That way, whenever anyone's willing to work on my priorities, there'll be something for them to do. That way, I'll get the maximum amount of effort from other people on my priorities

That's right. The more I wait, the more help I can get from other people. If I'm not waiting for anyone, I'm losing opportunities to get help from them. So my real problem is, I'm not waiting for enough work to be done. I need to get busy, so I can have more projects in waiting.

To be patient is ok.

But how I have understand the info on dmoz, sites which are submitted correctly will be included. My experience is, it is not this way!

I have submitted a website before three years ago, and it's still not listed!

My question is:

How long has a 'small human guy' to wait, sorry to be patient, until sombody takes his 'valuable' time to review the submission and activate the listing, until the judgement day...???

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But how I have understand the info on dmoz, sites which are submitted correctly will be included.

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It is even better. And it is also not completely true.
Sites that are submitted correctly can be inlcuded.
Sites that are submitted incorrectly can be inlcuded.
Sites that are not submitted at all can be included.
That is because suggesting a website has no influence on the that site being inlcuded. Only the content on the website does determine if a site will be listed.
Ofcourse when that will happen is a totaly different story. Because of the way DMOZ works it is impossible to predict when somethng will happen.

I have submitted a website before three years ago, and it's still not listed!

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It might have been lost in the crash we had end 2006. If you suggested you website before november 2006 you should suggest it again. If you suggested the website in 2007, 8 or 9 there is no need to suggest it again.

How long has a 'small human guy' to wait, sorry to be patient, until sombody takes his 'valuable' time to review the submission and activate the listing, until the judgement day...???

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No need to wait.
What will the result be when it is listed. Just one more link to your website.
Waiting on something you can't influence yourself seems so futile. I guess that there are many other things you could have done in the same time instead of waiting and wondering when the website will be listed.

>sites which are submitted correctly will be included. My experience is, it is not this way!

You're right. "Correct submittal" has nothing whatsoever to do with a site being included. No submittal at all is required--most sites are listed without one. I haven't seen your submittal but I'd bet large sums of money it wasn't perfectly correct. But it doesn't matter, "incorrect submittals" can be fixed.

All that matters is unique content on the site.

>How long has a 'small human guy' to wait, sorry to be patient, until sombody takes his 'valuable' time to review the submission and activate the listing, until the judgement day...???

The Forum FAQ answers most of this question. But in addition:

Size doesn't matter--since "size of human" isn't part of the submittal process, we really don't know how little you are, unless you have that information on the site (and even then, we'd know that only after the site review.)

Human doesn't really matter either. "On the internet nobody knows you're a dog", as Gary Larsen said.

Listings don't come from "activating submittals". They come from reviewing sites and finding unique content on them. Most suggestions don't have any unique content at all behind them. It can take just as long, or longer, to review a site looking for unique content that isn't there, as it does to review a site with genuine unique content. So much of the editors' "valuable time" is wasted by people who have no plans to create unique content, but lots of "worthless time" to spam the site suggestion form.

Obviously, that isn't fair. And so editors always have a choice: to look through the suggestions for useful ideas, or to look elsewhere for useful ideas. Most of the time, for most topics, looking elsewhere is much more useful.

But every suggestion will be kept until someone thinks the category they were made to, could benefit by some work--and also thinks that suggestion might help.

Or until the judgment day. Or until a major system crash, which is something that occasionally happens even on computers not running Microsoft software.

But we can't actually know which will come first: the volunteer editor, or the imp of the perverse, enforcing Murphy's law, or the judgment.