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Turbo13 · Jul 7, 2004

Any help on the status would be nice.

Also we are a Travel Agency, and thus would (I think) belong in categories other then just Regional.
Is it considered spam if I submit the site to other categories. (any ideas/direction).

Thanks a million,
Vince.

bobrat · Jul 7, 2004

You may wish to read http://dmoz.org/travelguidelines.html

Turbo13 · Jul 7, 2004

bobrat]You may wish to read [url said:
http://dmoz.org/travelguidelines.html[/url]

Ok, that answers the question of where I need to submit later.
What is the status of my original submition ?

Thanks,
Vince.

Turbo13 · Jul 7, 2004

P.s.

bobrat]You may wish to read [url said:
http://dmoz.org/travelguidelines.html[/url]

P.S. I've looked at our competitors and they are listed under the suburb they are located in.
i.e. Top: Regional: North America: United States: Illinois: Localities: A: Aurora: Travel and Tourism (4)
Four Winds Travel Services, Inc. - Travel agency with specialties in the Caribbean, alternative cruises, and European travel.

I did olmost the same listing trying to get in Illinois: Localities: N: Northbrook:...
(Currently there is no Travel and Tourism section there )

bobrat · Jul 7, 2004

In which case you would be listed in Regional/North_America/United_States/Illinois/Localities/N/Northbrook/ until the editor decided to create a subcategory.

Turbo13 · Jul 8, 2004

bobrat said:
In which case you would be listed in Regional/North_America/United_States/Illinois/Localities/N/Northbrook/ until the editor decided to create a subcategory.

I guess I am still waiting for some kind of progress report.

Vince.

hutcheson · Jul 8, 2004

Where was that submittal you're asking about?

We went off answering your other question and never noticed you didn't give enough information to answer the first one.

We need a (clickable, please!) link to the dmoz.org category.

bobrat · Jul 8, 2004

Oh yeah it's time for form letter #47

[readme]Please read the guidelines[/readme]

Please supply a clickable category, but also read all the other points,
since if you forgot one of the items in the list, it is entirely possible
you overlooked some of the others. And you don't want to fix the category
only to be told that there was something else you failed to do.

Turbo13 · Jul 8, 2004

where:

http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/United_States/Illinois/Localities/N/Northbrook/

sole · Jul 8, 2004

[r]rec'd[/r]

Turbo13 · Jul 8, 2004

who does a review

Who would do the review, if no editor is listed.
I've went all the way up to Illinois before an editor was listed.

I am just curious on this one.

Thanks,
Vince.

sole · Jul 8, 2004

Any Illinois or higher level editor who comes along. Including possibly an editall or meta.

See http://resource-zone.com/forum/faq.php?faq=odp#faq_no_editor

Turbo13 · Jan 6, 2005

Half a year - nothing

Well we get 97000 hits a month, yet we can’t get listed.
Any ideas ?

Thanks...

spectregunner · Jan 6, 2005

Well, speaking in very plain terms here:

It can take from a few days to more than two years to get an editor to review a given site. I was just working on a bunch of submissions from 2001.

If you are getting 97,000 hits a month, then you are doing something right. Just forget about your ODP submission except for every six months (you are a few days early, and we don't do early) when you can ask for a status check.

Turbo13 · Jan 6, 2005

Forget - Why

As far as being a few days early, I am a day early(more like a few hours) from my original post, and my submission was earlier then that... But who is counting.

In general the whole way the search engine game is played bothers me.
You have to pay to get listed. So I think ok DMOZ is fare, makes sense, etc.

I suppose 2 years is ok, for a personal website, but if one is trying to start a business, then wait 2 years and see sounds bad. I think for most people searching a real true (not sponsored) listing shows them the company is worth dealing with.

I’ve emailed the reviewer under my category, and got no reply. Ok I think she is bussy, I check how many new listings got added in the 6 month. – Maybe not 0 but something realy close.

What can I say – Slightly disappointing.

spectregunner · Jan 7, 2005

But who is counting.

We are.

I suppose 2 years is ok, for a personal website, but if one is trying to start a business, then wait 2 years and see sounds bad.

We are an equal opportunity directory. Everyone waits for the same indeterminate period. Ther is no line, no way to get to the front of the line that does not exist. A site waits until we get to it.

In the end, it is ultimately fair.

I’ve emailed the reviewer under my category, and got no reply.

And you probably won't get a reply, either. Editors are under no obligation to read or reply to e-mail from submitters. Few such e-mails are useful -- most consist of begging/whining/complaining, or inappropriate offers, or threats. Replies usually lead to arguments or flamings.

I check how many new listings got added in the 6 month. – Maybe not 0 but something realy close.

That is an incomplete data set and actually tells you nothing about how much editing is going on. There are many, many editing activities of benefit to the directory that take place and are invisible to the general public.

What can I say – Slightly disappointing.

I guess I don't understand this. We have offered to give you something that you perceive to be of value, on a timeline of our choosing, and you are expressing disappointment that we are not moving fast enough for you?

Turbo13 · Jan 8, 2005

Please check ...

You know,

I really don't care about arguing this. The only thing I will say is that you pointed out that I, and everyone else that submits, perceive this as a value.
The perception is due to the lofty goals for DMOZ and to the fact that other search engines use this as their resource, etc.

If DMOZ would post concrete dates of 2 years, with the "maybe more" attached to it. I think the perceived value would be greatly diminished. My perceived value would have been slightly more then nothing if I knew it was 2 years, and maybe more.

But I am one of these people that likes to see a completion to things I start, so I will play by the rules and will do things to get us published.

As it stands now, its been 6 months. Please check the status of our site.

Thank you.

jimnoble · Jan 8, 2005

Your suggestion has been declined for lack of sufficient unique content.

Please note that this forum is for reporting status and its rules forbid discussion of/arguing about a site's merits or otherwise.

Turbo13 · Jan 8, 2005

Question

With ought arguing:

Does that mean that a Travel Agency that has a physical address, and is incorporated with the state of Illinois to sell travel for over 5 years, can not get listed in DMOZ ?

And if so does that mean that every site in DMOZ offer unique content ?

oneeye · Jan 8, 2005

Judging the legality of the business is not our job. We're judging the web site. Your site goes nowhere near meeting our guidelines in terms of content.

See http://dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html#notinclude

And if so does that mean that every site in DMOZ offer unique content ?

That is our aim. Sometimes sites slip through quality controls, are hijacked, change in nature, or were listed at a time when the accepted standard maybe was a little lower - the threshold is continually rising. When such sites are discovered, they are delisted - personally I delisted half a dozen travel service sites earlier today. I will probably do half a dozen more later while I'm in the swing.

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