Please help. The title and description of our site was incorrect following a major makeover. Immediately the update listing form was back online I submitted the change and received an acknowledgement but when I checked back at the category the original listing had disappeared and the new one has not yet been established. The original listing is still in the dmoz database as it appeas in the results to a search but it is missing from the category. How do I determine the status of my listing? Is it simply a matter of time, or is there a glitch in the update programme? Thanks
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jimnoble
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We don't respond to status requests here but I can give you a general answer. Whenever an update request is processed, the website is re-evaluated. In your situation, there are two possibilities.
1. The site is a better fit in a different category and has been moved there. Depending upon the permissions of the editor doing the move, it might have been listed at the destination or is awaiting further evaluation there.
2. The site no longer conforms with our site listing requirements and has been removed from our directory. You can check this for yourself by reading http://dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html .
The search database lags behind the main directory - in normal times by as much as a couple of weeks. Because of the recent problems, it hasn't been updated since October 13 2006 - a date that's shown at the bottom of the search results page.
1. The site is a better fit in a different category and has been moved there. Depending upon the permissions of the editor doing the move, it might have been listed at the destination or is awaiting further evaluation there.
2. The site no longer conforms with our site listing requirements and has been removed from our directory. You can check this for yourself by reading http://dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html .
The search database lags behind the main directory - in normal times by as much as a couple of weeks. Because of the recent problems, it hasn't been updated since October 13 2006 - a date that's shown at the bottom of the search results page.
Many thanks for your prompt response. Can you tell me please with whom I can discuss my specific site? I have reviewd the guidelines and our site complies in every respect with both Google's and your gudelines. It is an informative and useful site which for 9 years was on page 1 of Google's results until 20 August last year when it dropped dramatically and prompted the makeover which necessitated the change of title and description at dmoz.
I have searched the dmoz database and our original listing appears in the results with a link to the category at which it should appear. But it does not appear there. I cannot re-submit the change required becaue I am advised that the url is not listed at that category and I cannot find it at any other category. Can you advise hat i should do or whom I should contact?
I have searched the dmoz database and our original listing appears in the results with a link to the category at which it should appear. But it does not appear there. I cannot re-submit the change required becaue I am advised that the url is not listed at that category and I cannot find it at any other category. Can you advise hat i should do or whom I should contact?
jimnoble
DMOZ Meta
We aren't concerned with Google's rankings or rules, just our listing guidelines.
In case 1 above, if your site isn't already listed in a different category, it will be in time. Bugging a specific editor won't make it happen any faster so there's no need to contact anybody.
In case 2 above, your site isn't listable so there's no need to contact anybody.
Please ignore our search. As I said earlier, it's showing historical results.
In case 1 above, if your site isn't already listed in a different category, it will be in time. Bugging a specific editor won't make it happen any faster so there's no need to contact anybody.
In case 2 above, your site isn't listable so there's no need to contact anybody.
Please ignore our search. As I said earlier, it's showing historical results.
Thanks again Jim but how do I determine whether my problem is due to Case 1 or 2? Can no-one tell me whether the site is awaiting processing or has been removed? (and if so why? - We have done nothing wrong). Otherwise how long should I wait for it to appear before re-submitting as a new site?
jimnoble
DMOZ Meta
If you have checked that case 2 does not apply, it must be case 1 
.
In neither case is there any point suggesting it as a new website.
.In neither case is there any point suggesting it as a new website.
As indicated previously after using Update listing to change my site's title and description it immediately disappeared from the category listing and has not reappeared, nor is it listed under a different category. I have been advised that there is no point contacting anyone at OPD and to wait. But it would be helpful to know if my site is in fact in a queue awaiting an editor to review or has actually disappeared and so requires re-submission. Thanks
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A single resuggestion to the appropriate category will not be regarded as spamming and will give you the confidence that it is there and you can stop worrying.
regards
and you can stop worrying.regards
You're asking this question at a bad time; the website is still recovering from the perfect storm.
The engines that use ODP data usually pick up the RDF (database dump). Google directory is simply the RDF republished. But Google directory SEARCH is based on spidering its version of the directory. (ODP search is based on indexing just the RDF.)
So, normally Google directory search is an independent view of the data at a different point in time, and may be more current.
The engines that use ODP data usually pick up the RDF (database dump). Google directory is simply the RDF republished. But Google directory SEARCH is based on spidering its version of the directory. (ODP search is based on indexing just the RDF.)
So, normally Google directory search is an independent view of the data at a different point in time, and may be more current.
Look in the category itself is one way, or try searching dmoz with google using the site: operator http://www.google.com/search?&q=myfakesitename.com+site:dmoz.org . (replace myfakesitename.com with whatever your domain name is)
Other directories can download the RDF which is updated weekly (most of the time) to update their copies of the directory. Search Engines crawl the actual dmoz.org site and are therefore more up to date.
I tried searching (the address you provided (using many variations of my domain ie with and without www and http) all of which resulted in:
Your search - http://www.google.com/search?&q=mydomain:dmoz.org - did not match any documents.
Does that mean that after 7 years my site is no longer listed at DMOZ? If not surely something is very wrong, as all I did, after waiting weeks for the update listing page to return was update the title and description to correct what DMOZ had changed it to. My site immediately disappeared from the category list and I have no idea if it is in a queue, listed (wrongly) at a different category or lost in cyperspace - and no-one can tell me. I resubmitted it some weeks ago but still I have no idea what the status is.
Can yoou help?
Your search - http://www.google.com/search?&q=mydomain:dmoz.org - did not match any documents.
Does that mean that after 7 years my site is no longer listed at DMOZ? If not surely something is very wrong, as all I did, after waiting weeks for the update listing page to return was update the title and description to correct what DMOZ had changed it to. My site immediately disappeared from the category list and I have no idea if it is in a queue, listed (wrongly) at a different category or lost in cyperspace - and no-one can tell me. I resubmitted it some weeks ago but still I have no idea what the status is.
Can yoou help?
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> Does that mean that after 7 years my site is no longer listed at DMOZ?
Probably. Which may be temporary (the site was moved to an other category and is nor waiting review) or permanent (the site no longer fits the current DMOZ guidelines)
> My site immediately disappeared from the category list and I have no idea if it is in a queue, listed (wrongly) at a different category or lost in cyperspace
And neither do we.
> and no-one can tell me.
Correct. This would be answering a status request, something we decided not to do anymore.
> I resubmitted it some weeks ago
OK, just in case a mistake was made (we are only human) you have done the correct thing. An editor will determine if it is listable during review. Nobody knows when that review will be.
> but still I have no idea what the status is.
Neither do we.
> Can yoou help?
Sorry, no we can't.
Probably. Which may be temporary (the site was moved to an other category and is nor waiting review) or permanent (the site no longer fits the current DMOZ guidelines)
> My site immediately disappeared from the category list and I have no idea if it is in a queue, listed (wrongly) at a different category or lost in cyperspace
And neither do we.
> and no-one can tell me.
Correct. This would be answering a status request, something we decided not to do anymore.
> I resubmitted it some weeks ago
OK, just in case a mistake was made (we are only human) you have done the correct thing. An editor will determine if it is listable during review. Nobody knows when that review will be.
> but still I have no idea what the status is.
Neither do we.
> Can yoou help?
Sorry, no we can't.
So what do you suggest I do? Re-submit? Again? Wait? For how long? I've already waited a month. Why can no one tell me the reason why my listing immediately disappeared after submitting a change in title and description? Is that normal when a change is requested? If so, why is that not explained at the form? That's all that would be required. If not, why will someone not talke responsibility and find out what happened to my listing? Perhaps the form is or was still faulty.
jimnoble
DMOZ Meta
We don't discuss individual websites here or respond to status enquiries. That's spelled out prominently in the forum subtitle Forum for discussions about the process of suggesting a site for inclusion. General discussion only, no mention of specific sites here please. and the Important thread at its top Note: These threads are NOT for Submission Status!
Why don't we? Because we tried the experiment for a considerable time and got heartily sick of the arguing that resulted.
It's already been explained to you that your website is in one of the following states here.
- Now listed in a different category.
- In transit to a different category
- Deemed unlistable
In none of those cases will knowing the status make any difference to you.
Additionally, you've since suggested it to some category where it's either
- Awaiting evaluation
- Been evaluated and given one of the above statuses.
That's it. There's nothing more for us to say to you so I'm closing this thread. Do not start another one on the same topic.
Why don't we? Because we tried the experiment for a considerable time and got heartily sick of the arguing that resulted.
It's already been explained to you that your website is in one of the following states here.
- Now listed in a different category.
- In transit to a different category
- Deemed unlistable
In none of those cases will knowing the status make any difference to you.
Additionally, you've since suggested it to some category where it's either
- Awaiting evaluation
- Been evaluated and given one of the above statuses.
That's it. There's nothing more for us to say to you so I'm closing this thread. Do not start another one on the same topic.