Professional Services Automation Software Category
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jimnoble
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We don't create subcategories on external demand; we create them when we have enough websites to populate them.
Please suggest your website to the category that would be its parent.
Please suggest your website to the category that would be its parent.
makrhod
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As you can see, the answer has not changed since you asked the same question last year.
If you have already suggested your site, there is no need to do so again, and in fact multiple submissions of the same or closely related sites can be seen as spamming.
Besides that, each successive suggestion of the same site overwrites the previous one, so that if an editor feels like reviewing suggestions in date order, the site will have moved further down the list.
If you have already suggested your site, there is no need to do so again, and in fact multiple submissions of the same or closely related sites can be seen as spamming.
Besides that, each successive suggestion of the same site overwrites the previous one, so that if an editor feels like reviewing suggestions in date order, the site will have moved further down the list.
I'm not worried about my site, and I don't think my site is a right fit for the parent, nor is it the right fit for Professional Services Automation (my site is very unique in terms of category). I came across the industry of Professional Services Automation because I'm constantly trying to find a niche to describe my site.
By offering to edit it this missing category, I WOULD NOT have included my site. I know you get guys get a lot of goofballs who offer to edit a category just to get their site on it, but that's so clearly unethical that it's beyond my understanding how they suppose they would get away with it. You are both jaded, but that goes with the territory, so I forgive you.
My point is simple. As I said before :
1) Professional Services is "very entrenched industry" (just google it and you will see the plethora of companies specializing in it).
2) It's not represented in DMOZ
Being jaded aside (and having the natural inclination to cut&paste the same response over and over), I'm not sure why you responded. I didn't ask you to repeat information from the FAQ, or implied that you have to do anything based on "external demand". There was no demand, or even request about adding the category. I simply stated it wasn't on DMOZ. If you so happen to choose to add it, good for you, and you have at least one person willing to edit it. You might find this hard to believe, but I believe in DMOZ. I troll categories all the time and find very cool unique content.
By offering to edit it this missing category, I WOULD NOT have included my site. I know you get guys get a lot of goofballs who offer to edit a category just to get their site on it, but that's so clearly unethical that it's beyond my understanding how they suppose they would get away with it. You are both jaded, but that goes with the territory, so I forgive you.
My point is simple. As I said before :
1) Professional Services is "very entrenched industry" (just google it and you will see the plethora of companies specializing in it).
2) It's not represented in DMOZ
Being jaded aside (and having the natural inclination to cut&paste the same response over and over), I'm not sure why you responded. I didn't ask you to repeat information from the FAQ, or implied that you have to do anything based on "external demand". There was no demand, or even request about adding the category. I simply stated it wasn't on DMOZ. If you so happen to choose to add it, good for you, and you have at least one person willing to edit it. You might find this hard to believe, but I believe in DMOZ. I troll categories all the time and find very cool unique content.
gloria
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If I had received such a site in another category, I probably would have sent it to Computers/Software/Business/E-Commerce/Business-to-Business/Application_Service_Providers/. Had you looked there?
I'm afraid that 99.999% of posters who come here and tell us that we don't have an category, want that category created for their site. If that is jaded, so be it.
We create categories when we have enough sites either existing in the parent category, in the pile of suggestions, and/or have found them ourselves out on the Internet, and have discussed the creation in the internal forums and have an editor who wants to do the work of setting it up. Just knowing that an industry exists is not enough. That is why you'll find posts in these forums where someone states that we need to create a category and an editor replies to suggest such sites to the parent category.
We don't care if applicants have a site which would be listed in the category for which they are applying. The requirement is that they treat all sites equally. I found ODP in 1999 when I changed ISPs and was looking for sites which linked to mine to give them the updated URL. I found that my site (a niche directory) was already in ODP (with the old URL) and knew that I had lots of sites which could be listed in that category. I applied and was accepted, and by looking at the category, you couldn't tell which site was mine. FWIW, my site is long gone, since it is no longer needed.
I'm afraid that 99.999% of posters who come here and tell us that we don't have an category, want that category created for their site. If that is jaded, so be it.
We create categories when we have enough sites either existing in the parent category, in the pile of suggestions, and/or have found them ourselves out on the Internet, and have discussed the creation in the internal forums and have an editor who wants to do the work of setting it up. Just knowing that an industry exists is not enough. That is why you'll find posts in these forums where someone states that we need to create a category and an editor replies to suggest such sites to the parent category.
We don't care if applicants have a site which would be listed in the category for which they are applying. The requirement is that they treat all sites equally. I found ODP in 1999 when I changed ISPs and was looking for sites which linked to mine to give them the updated URL. I found that my site (a niche directory) was already in ODP (with the old URL) and knew that I had lots of sites which could be listed in that category. I applied and was accepted, and by looking at the category, you couldn't tell which site was mine. FWIW, my site is long gone, since it is no longer needed.
FWIW, IMHO, that category would be far off base.
Application Service Provider (ASP) software is another term for SaaS (software as a service). While there isn't an explicit industry consesus out there, the feel one gets is that smaller app providers still use the Application Service Provider nomenclature, and bigger products, Wall Street, and M&A firms use the SaaS term.
In either case, these are applications that run off the Internet, they are generally subscribed to, and they generally don't require anything except a browser and an Internet connection (usually no installs are required, but if they are, it would only be small widgets). In the last few years, the SaaS piece of the software pie has exploded, and thus, this has become a widely used, very general term that covers a huge sector of the market, from picture album managers, to Google Apps, to SalesForce.net.
PSA software packages are basically ERPs (entreprise resource planning systems) for anyone that has a company that performs professional services (e.g. bills by the hour like lawyers, accountants, architects, IT, etc.).
Like ERPs, they are big software that runs every aspect of your business (which, by the way, is why my recently suggested site doesn't really apply as it mainly covers billing, payroll, and time tracking).
Where ASP and SaaS are horizontal market terms, Professional Services Automation is a vertical market term (and, in fact, doesn't necessarily equate to software, as there might be a Professional Services Automation programmer, or a Professional Services Automation effeciency expert).
PSA software is a tiny portion of SaaS, and I'm pretty sure (although I would have to research it to be sure), that most PSA software are not SaaS products.
Application Service Provider (ASP) software is another term for SaaS (software as a service). While there isn't an explicit industry consesus out there, the feel one gets is that smaller app providers still use the Application Service Provider nomenclature, and bigger products, Wall Street, and M&A firms use the SaaS term.
In either case, these are applications that run off the Internet, they are generally subscribed to, and they generally don't require anything except a browser and an Internet connection (usually no installs are required, but if they are, it would only be small widgets). In the last few years, the SaaS piece of the software pie has exploded, and thus, this has become a widely used, very general term that covers a huge sector of the market, from picture album managers, to Google Apps, to SalesForce.net.
PSA software packages are basically ERPs (entreprise resource planning systems) for anyone that has a company that performs professional services (e.g. bills by the hour like lawyers, accountants, architects, IT, etc.).
Like ERPs, they are big software that runs every aspect of your business (which, by the way, is why my recently suggested site doesn't really apply as it mainly covers billing, payroll, and time tracking).
Where ASP and SaaS are horizontal market terms, Professional Services Automation is a vertical market term (and, in fact, doesn't necessarily equate to software, as there might be a Professional Services Automation programmer, or a Professional Services Automation effeciency expert).
PSA software is a tiny portion of SaaS, and I'm pretty sure (although I would have to research it to be sure), that most PSA software are not SaaS products.
jimnoble
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Thank you for the explanation, but my advice in post 2 still holds good. Just drill down from the Business or Computing or Whatever top level category until you can't find an appropriate subcategory for your website. Stop there because that's the category to which you should suggest it 
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chaos127
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And if you'd like to be an editor to help us out -- and perhaps help set up a better category structure for the industry you describe -- you'd be more than welcome to apply to become an editor, but you'll have to first apply to an existing category. Once you're an editor you'll be able to provide your expertise in a discussion in our internal forums about creating the categories you think are required.
The category you apply to first needs to be reasonably small (see the advice post in the "becoming an editor" forum here) and might or might not be related to the industry cats we've been talking about above. For instance, it could be related to a hobby or other interest you have outside work, or be a category related to your home town.
The category you apply to first needs to be reasonably small (see the advice post in the "becoming an editor" forum here) and might or might not be related to the industry cats we've been talking about above. For instance, it could be related to a hobby or other interest you have outside work, or be a category related to your home town.