question about site submission

yogiudo

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I have recently created a site, based off open source media content.
It is an online dictionary. It took me several months to write all of the code for it, and to add some functionality. I am currently still doing work on it, but I am just about ready to through in the towel because no directories will list me.
Can someone tell me what is wrong with it so that I might fix it or do something which might allow me to be included in the directory?

My website is http://yawiktionary.blastel.com *yet another web dictionary*

Your comments, opinions etc are welcome and encouraged.
 

yogiudo

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I am not looking for a critique

I am not looking for a critique, I just want to know someones opinion as to why my site has not been listed.

Just a hint. Otherwise, its like - I could go and try and change this or that forever and simply be rejected. I have read all of the listing policies and I am within the requirements as far as I can tell.
 

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yogiudo said:
I am not looking for a critique, I just want to know someones opinion as to why my site has not been listed.
There can be 2 reasons.
First and most probable reason: it isn't reviewed yet
Other reason: it does noet meet DMOZ guidelines and is rejected

yogiudo said:
Just a hint. Otherwise, its like - I could go and try and change this or that forever and simply be rejected. I have read all of the listing policies and I am within the requirements as far as I can tell.
If a site does not violate the guidelines and has enough unique content there is no reason to reject it. Until the site is reviewed by an editor you are the only one to know if your site is listable or not. We can and will not discuss single sites at R-Z.
 

yogiudo

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To the hospital

I will take it to the hospital.

The content is a fork of another project, which by definition must be similiar.
But its a chicken and the egg situation, until there are users, the content can not be different.
but until it is listed, there cannot be users.

*yogiudo shudders at the thought.

*yikes*

Thanks for the hospital advice, I'll see what they say.
 

giz

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We list sites that already have content, not provide an advertising medium to get you started....
 

yogiudo

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giz said:
We list sites that already have content, not provide an advertising medium to get you started....

I have 28000 pages of content.

If you say that dictionary.com started from unique content your wrong. It has been by and large licensed from rogets. The only difference was they paid money, and I did not. Period.

So if you list dictionary.com, and other rogets content (which you do) then you're already saying "We only list sites which are run by large corporations which pay money for content"

I will gladly continue to make the site more accessible, user friendly, and add more features which enable a better user experience, but not if there is no future possibility of listing because I have similar content to other sites. While knowing all along that other sites run by richer people are getting listed because they can afford to buy content and listing positions.
 

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>But its a chicken and the egg situation, until there are users, the content can not be different.

>I have read all of the listing policies and I am within the requirements...

These are contradictory statements. The listing policy is all about unique content--and not submitting until you have it.

There's no chicken and egg problem, in reality: you have no users and nothing to attract users. Which is already a stable and optimum situation, from the viewpoint of users (which is, of course, the only viewpoint that matters here.)

This case is more like inviting your neighbors to a potluck at their house, then showing up without food.
 

Brill

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This is completely off topic and strictly my personal interest, but what was the reason you didn't integrate a search feature?
 

yogiudo

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search feature

both a search feature and a rich client for editing are comming soon.
Actually, thats the most significant part.

The reason its not in there yet is because its not perfected yet.
Thanks for the question.

Anyways, the comment about unique content: My answer

almost nobody has unique content. Every work is a derivative of something else. Such the same is for yawiktionary. It grows more unique day by day.
 

yogiudo

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I will also add something to what I just said,
If you think I do not, nor will have unique content - you are incorrect.
My advise is to _watch me_
 

hutcheson

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If you think almost nobody has unique content, then you simply do not know what our concept of unique content is. And it is a dead certainty that you do not know, and will not know, how to create it.

I shall continue to watch those people who have a proven track record of finding and publishing unique content. There are MANY such people, and others are just starting out similar paths.

My advice to you is to pursue your vision elsewhere: it obviously has no connection to the ODP mission.

I'd also suggest that if you ever decide that you want to contribute some actual unique content on the web, then start by developing expertise, experience, and knowledge in a particular topic that seems neglected (that is, there ISN'T already a whole community preparing unique content on it!) -- then, rather than trying to fragment any of the cooperative communities that ARE contributing content, you could be in a position to write original, authoritative material FOR your choice of the communities: thus making a site even more authoritative as well as earning the respect of all the "pro bono" communities.
 
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