questions about public side

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teebear

Hi,

I am not an editor and thus cannot see the behind-the-scenes, inner workings of the whole process. I have a few questions regarding how updates happen. I have gathered that there is a "public side" and an "editor side" and their functions seem clear enough. I would like to know about how often this public side updates. I read that this seems to depend on how the server is acting up, but about once a month? Once every few months? longer?
Also, when it does update, does the entire directory update at the same time, or do subcategories all operate on their own time-tables. Finally, do any of this relate to the "Last Update" timestamp at the bottom of every subcategory.

Thanks for any answers to my inquisitive mind.
 

windharp

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Normally every edit leads to an update of the changed page almost instantly, you will only notice a delay up to several hours in times of very high server load. After the upgrade is complete you should - theoretically - not notice any delay until we need another upgrade ;) And: Yes, the timestamp refers to the time if the last edit (I don't know if it is actually the time of the edit or the time the page has been rebuilt. Under normal circumstances that question would not make sense since the both times don't differ)

Due to the still ongoing server upgrade, it does not update at all - the synchrionization between the servers is not set up yet. We have no schedule when this will change, we will inform the public when this happens.
 

theseeker

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Actually, once everything is running correctly, I believe the public side will be a day or two behind the database, and will be updated daily just as the mirrors are. The last update date refers to the last time something within the category was changed.
 

brmehlman

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Windharp's answer was correct for how it used to be when both were on the same server. In fact it's the answer I would have given if I hadn't seen theseeker's post.

A day or two behind sounds likely in the future, because now editing and public lookup will be on different servers.
 

windharp

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You are right, the situation may change. But we simply don't know yet. (Or I have missed a thread on the internal side)

If I would have to write the routine, I would make the program that generates the page, it would simply write it to both places simultaneously.
 

brmehlman

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> (Or I have missed a thread on the internal side)

No, I'm just guessing the same guess that theseeker guessed.
 

theseeker

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I think you missed a thread. autumn explained the workings of the mirror server in one of them. Or maybe that was in a private email or a thread in a forum you don't have access to (can't remember exactly where).

In another recent thread, she made another comment that makes me believe it could take several days for the data to fully refresh. But I know it will have more than a day to refresh the data, so it would be best to make sure our answers reflect that. :monacle:
 

giz

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I think that thread may have been here at Resource Zone. I remember seeing it somewhere in recent weeks.

I understood that the public side would update about once per ~week, on a similar timescale to RDF generation.
 

sole

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Finally, do any of this relate to the "Last Update" timestamp at the bottom of every subcategory.

The "Last Update" timestamp at the bottom of every subcategory reflects the last time something was changed on the page. (Or very rarely a null edit to fix something which won't show as a change.) So in theory, you could be looking at a page that shows the status as of yesterday, but which says Last updated January 14, 2002.

If the site above a category or a site just below it shows a more recent date, then you can be fairly confident that the page you are looking at is as up to date as those pages. It just wasn't changed as recently.

As for what the delay will be for the updating of the pages, like theseeker, I understood that will be something like 24 hours. However, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
 
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