Re-suggest after a year?

Doug Stewart

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Hello

I submitted my site a long time ago (2 years?). At that point I followed the accepted guidelines of resubmitting each month. I then stopped for a year.

During that time my site has matured hugely, both in terms of content and in terms of useability/appearance. I'm trying to decide if I should resubmit, but I can't make up my mind given the 2 possible following scenarios:

Scenario 1: I've been rejected a long time ago
- In this case, given that my site has matured a lot and become much more valuable, it would seem sensible to me to resubmit

Scenario 2: I haven't been reviewed yet
- In this case, resubmitting (especially given the number of earlier pre-submissions) would be contrary to DMOZ policy. I've been warned that if my site is pending, this could get me permanently baned

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I also have another question about resubmission (should I resubmit). My site is primarily about 'French Property'. While it is a fairly good site for this, one could argue that there are at least several other sites that are just as good for this topic. However, as part of the information resources on my site I've developed two areas which I think are of exceptional value ('Maps of France' and 'Metric System'). However, when I last looked at the DMOZ rules, I understood it to say that I should only submit the top-level page, not sub-pages. How do I handle this?
 

jimnoble

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I followed the accepted guidelines of resubmitting each month
That practice has never been acceptable to us and could well have been counter productive for you.

Just suggest your website one last time to what you thing is the most appropriate category. Assuming that it's listable, we'll list it in time. We can't predict the time scale though.
 

Doug Stewart

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A bit of assistance

Thank you very much for your response.

As this will be my last submission, I want to make sure that I get it right. Following are my thoughts; your comments would be very much appreciated.

1) Category
The focus of my site is "French Property", although a number of other topics (e.g. maps, recipes) are covered. I did a search and there seem to be two relevant categories used by other sites with the same topic:

Regional: Europe: United Kingdom: Business and Economy: Property: International

Regional: Europe: France: Business and Economy: Real Estate

My company is registered in the UK. However, to me the second category seems the most appropriate to my topic of "French Property".

2) URL
I believe the correct format is www.domain.com/

3) Title
I struggle with this one a bit. I thought of "French Property" or "French Property for Sale", but this would be true of all the sites in this category, so is not very descriptive.

Most of the other sites in this category use the company name, or the company name followed by "Property". Unfortunately, my official company name is quite long ("French Property, Services & Information Ltd."). This is also the name of my site.

I've thought of abbreviating it to "FPSI French Property". However, FPSI doesn't really mean have much meaning.

Given the above, could you give me some guidance as to which of these is most suitable?

4) Description

My site is mainly about "French property". There isn't much one can say about this without getting into promotional language. So I end up with something like "French property for sale, advertised by various agencies and private sellers" or "Portal for agencies and private sellers to advertise French property for sale".

There are a number of subtopics which are very popular (such as the French map pages, the metric conversion pages and the recipe pages), which between them get over 3000 visitors a day. So an alternative description would be "French property advertisements, plus articles on related topics".

Again, could you provide me with any guidance as to which of the above would be most suitable?

Very best regards,
Doug
 

Eric-the-Bun

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quick 2 cents from work:)

3) As the website title and company name are the same, use that - don't worry about the length, technically it is correct and the editor will trim it if necessary.

4) In the first sentence say who you are/what you do - your examples seem to be adequate. In the next sentence say what the important contents of your site are. 'Includes <list of very relevant things> as well as <less relevant things>'. Only include items that form a respectable chunk of content. The editor will probably trim it but at least they approach the site with a clear idea of what to expect and what you see as the important things.

regards
 

hutcheson

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Real estate sites are listed in the locality where the real estate agent's office is.
 

Doug Stewart

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Hutcheson

Thank you for the clarification. My "official" company registered office is in the UK. However, the "working" office with the staff is based in France. Should I go by the registered office location or the staff/working location in terms of submitting to the correct DMOZ category?
 

motsa

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Where the office is (presumably that address is listed on the site?).
 

Doug Stewart

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My site lists 2 addresses. One is the "registered office" which is listed for legal purposes. The other is the address for regular mail. Thus I have 2 offices, one in UK and one in France, with the addresses of both published on the web site.

So, given that both addresses are published on the web site, do I use the UK or the France one in terms of choosing the DMOZ category?
 

hutcheson

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You could, if you like, also have a post office box in, say, Nevada. But all that matters is what geographic location the clients would walk, fly, or drive to, in order to speak to the real estate agent or agents whose personal services the site is describing.
 

Doug Stewart

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OK, so I take it that the geographical location one chooses would be client-based rather than registered-office based. Since clients that wanted to talk to our company would use our French office, I guess I should use the France sub-category rather than the UK sub-category. As it happens, this is what I did (see earlier post), although at the time I didn't know the DMOZ policy in this regard.
 

hutcheson

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The question for a real estate agent (or travel agent or plumber, for that matter) is, where is the physical presence -- what's the geographical location of the office where the agent goes to meet his clients (which MUST be the same place where his clients go to meet him.) A real estate agent or plumber may drive away from that office to clients' locations, and different people may be willing to drive different distances -- but it's the center, not the periphery, that defines the locus of service.
 

Doug Stewart

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Thank you for the help

Thanks for the help and guidance.

I have now submitted. Hopefully, last time lucky!!
 
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