Rejected with nonsense "reviewer comments"

flavious

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Hi

Recently I have applied to become an editor and got this reply:
[...]
Due to the large number of applications we get every day, we are unable to
provide personal responses to every application or to respond to inquiries
about why you were rejected. If a reviewer chose to provide additional
comments to you, they will be given in the "Reviewer Comments" section below.


Your willingness to volunteer is greatly appreciated and perhaps we will be
able to utilize your talent in the future.

Regards,
The Open Directory Project

Reviewer Comments:

Categories with up to about 50-60 sites are usually suitable.
Please suggest at least two sites other than your own, and which are not already listed, to show that you can easily build this category with worthwhile additions unrelated to you.
Also, please use the editing guidelines to help you write acceptable titles and descriptions.
But
1. The two sites I have provided are not owned by myself and were not listed.
2. I am confident that the titles and descriptions I have written were describing in a objective manner what those websites are all about, and using the technical terminology specific to the category I had applied to.

This makes me think, do the guys who review applications actually review them?
I mean, I know what volunteer work means and I'm coming to you willing to help out and improve something which is good for humanity, yet I am rejected with a reason having nothing to do with my application?
 

sjw

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I expect in this instance the Editor reviewing your application deemed the two sites suggested were not suitable for the category or not considered 'worthy' additions. And maybe the sites appeared to be in some way related to you, rather than being owned by you (according to the reviewer).

I doubt you'll get much more feedback from anyone, better luck next time though.
 

Elper

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Without being specific to your rejection, getting reviewer comments can be viewed as a good sign. If you can follow them for your next application, however silly they may seem to be, you'll increase the chances of being accepted. :)
 

makrhod

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do the guys who review applications actually review them?
Yes indeed, there is no such thing as automatic review. The fact that specific comments were added to the generic reply is surely additional proof of that.
I expect in this instance the Editor reviewing your application deemed the two sites suggested were not suitable for the category or not considered 'worthy' additions.
Err, but if the reviewer thought that, they would have said so, instead of giving the specific response quoted. :confused:
 

sjw

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makrhod said:
Err, but if the reviewer thought that, they would have said so, instead of giving the specific response quoted. :confused:

Oh yeah, I hadn't thought of that.

So in this case, the applicant has listed two sites which (he/she says) does not belong to them, but the reviewer thinks otherwise. Could this be because there are other details on the application that suggests the applicant is in some way related to the sites being suggested?

But if the sites don't belong the applicant, how is this resolved?
 

chaos127

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The comments don't explicitly say that you failed on any of the points mentioned, but the inference I would draw from reading them is that the reviewer felt that you had:
(a) applied to a category that is too large for a new editor,*
(b) has less than two example sites with which they aren't affiliated / connected in some way,** and
(c) Had some major problems with the titles or descriptions for the example sites***

To me, it would seem odd to mention those things with no qualification if they weren't seen as problems with your application, as that would be likely to lead to further confusion. However, the reviewer might not have intended it to be read that way, and they may also have been mistaken about one or more of the points. (We are all human after all.) I guess it's also possible that the reviewer intended the "reviewer comments" to be "helpful tips for your next application" rather than a list of problems with the current one, and that the reasons for rejection were all covered in the general points made above.

* The "up to about 50-60 sites" part is a bit misleading here, since the official wording on the application instructions is "generally categories with less than 100 sites". It's true that the larger a category is the more likely it is to be unsuitable for a new editor, and, all other things being equal, a borderline application may be more likely to be accepted if the category is smaller. However, new editors can be, and routinely are, accepted into categories with more than 60 listed sites.

** As it says at http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/conflict.html , affiliations aren't just sites you currently own. They also include sites you help administer or run (which would include forum moderation), have provided content for (but we're not worried about forums that you just post on), done SEO work for, helped design, etc. And also sites that you've owned or run or done any of the other things for in the past. Maybe this applies to one of your examples?

*** We certainly don't require new applicants to be perfect with their titles and descriptions, but it helps if they have made an effort. The guidelines can be found at http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/describing.html -- one common trap people fall into is just describing the business / product that the site is for, and not saying anything about the content that users will find on the site. But this alone shouldn't be a reason for an application to be rejected.

All-in-all, I'd suggest trying again with a new application. Do your best to understand all the possible problems listed in the email (both in the commons reasons section, and the reviewer comments), and then try to make sure your new application doesn't fall foul of any of them. Many current editors tool more than one attempt before their application was accepted, so I wouldn't be put off by an initial rejection.
 
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