Rejection to heart.

marque

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Last night I submitted an application to become an editor of a category that seriously needed some attention. I was hoping that person would be me, until I received a suspiciously prompt reply stating my application was rejected.

Now I understand there is a great deal of scrutiny dealt to reviewing the applications in order to keep the integrity of the directory alive, but this category is lacking behind, in fact some sub-categories are advertising that it needs an editor.

I scrolled down to the bottom of the rejection email to find the reason of my rejection was that two of my sites were already listed. However one of them was completely in the wrong sub-category, and the other was listed under locations. With the search feature not working adequately it was nearly impossible for me to search through all the sub-categories to find if my sites were already listed.

The category I am interested in editing is http://dmoz.org/Regional/Oceania/Australia/Queensland/Municipalities/Brisbane_City/

Rejecting me on the basis that my two of my sites were already listed is a lame excuse. I have a great interest in this category because it is where I grew up, where I lived most of my life and live now, and where I work.
 
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gimmster

I'm not a meta, do not process (or have access to) editor applications.

Certainly search not working has made your site choice more difficult, but not insurmountable.

I edit mostly in the Regional branch, and the Municipality level is not really a good place to start. Most people expect this to give them access to all the Localities - it does not. The only sites that should list at that level are those with multiple physical locations (In two or more Localities, but not outside the Municipality), and council or informational sites about the Municipality as a whole.

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to apply to edit a locality with less than 100 sites listed in total. Once you have an understanding of the structure, and an editing history (portfolio of work), you will be able to apply for and edit more and larger categories.

:tree:
 

jimnoble

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suspiciously prompt reply
Could you explain what you meant by that please? Most people on here would prefer shorter response times rather than longer ones.

If nothing else, a prompt reply indicates that some of us consider recruitment to be a higher priority than processing external listing suggestions.

I'm not about to discuss your newapp because I neither saw nor processed it.
 

genietay

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Marque, I know how you are feeling :eek: - I was also rejected the first time I applied.

I wanted to scream at the computer "I JUST WANT TO HELP!!" :mad: . After a few days, the disappointment, anger and feelings that I wasn't good enough subsided, and I re-applied for my home town in regional. I found 3 local sites (very hard in a small, southern town!!) and resubmitted. I was accepted that time and am now a domezaholic!!! :eek:

Since the search isn't working properly, you might want to try a google search. If you do a search for the site title, most of the time the dmoz listing will show up in the search results. I used this for my application.

Good Luck and hang in there!!

genietay
 

marque

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Thanks everyone,

The Brisbane City category has 67 listings of about 30 of them I submitted over time, if they actually were approved or not is another story.

I was so mad after my rejection I decided to send about 15 more relevant submissions to the category and sub-categories. Ha that will show them! :)

In reply to jimnoble, decisions should not be made in haste, they should be carefully reviewed and all variables should be considered. I expected approximately two weeks for my application to be reviewed because of the large number of applications received by the dmoz staff and my assumption of the process involved. I received the confirmation email that my application was received at 10:51pm +1000 GMT 36 minutes later the rejection email arrived, it striked me as a random act of rejection.
 

donaldb

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Some of us only process applications for areas that we have some familiarity with. We have tools that alert us to when applications arrive in our area of interest. I rarely process applications for Shopping or Business categories because those are areas of the directory where I need to get some more experience. But I do have expertise in other areas and when I see an application for one of those areas, I jump on it and process it a.s.a.p. So just like the review process for site submissions, the process for new editor applications is not always a first in, first out process. Some apps get processed lickety-split, and other might have to wait for a bit. And after you've had some experience processing applications you get pretty good at quickly approving or denying them. It's not something we take lightly.

As was mentioned about Brisbane_City is not the best category for a new editor to start in as the Municipality level categories have stricter guidelines than the locality level categories. You might want to look at some of the smaller categories under http://dmoz.org/Regional/Oceania/Australia/Queensland/Localities/B/Brisbane_CBD/ and read the [thread=1289]FAQ and General Advice[/thread] thread at the top of this forum.
 

motsa

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>> received the confirmation email that my application was received at 10:51pm +1000 GMT 36 minutes later the rejection email arrived, it striked me as a random act of rejection.

36 minutes is not unreasonable in a situation like this. As a meta reviewing apps, I've sometimes been reviewing applications just as a new one comes in and have reviewed the new one within minutes of it being submitted.


>> Rejecting me on the basis that my two of my sites were already listed is a lame excuse. I have a great interest in this category because it is where I grew up, where I lived most of my life and live now, and where I work.

In the case of an application for a municipality category like the one you applied for, whether or not you've chosen sites that are already listed where they should be (and whether or not you've shown you understand what belongs where) becomes of paramount importance. Choose a small (I'd go for under 50 sites myself), locality-level category instead to apply to.


>> this category is lacking behind, in fact some sub-categories are advertising that it needs an editor.

All categories without a listed editor say they need an editor. It doesn't mean that the category is neglected.
 

marque

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In the case of an application for a municipality category like the one you applied for, whether or not you've chosen sites that are already listed where they should be (and whether or not you've shown you understand what belongs where) becomes of paramount importance. Choose a small (I'd go for under 50 sites myself), locality-level category instead to apply to.

You have hit the nail on the head motsa, and after much deliberation on this I have concluded that it wasn't necessarily the fact that I was rejected or that I was rejected because my sites were already listed, it is where they were listed that made me so upset.

The placement of the site is indeed paramount, so when I found out one of the sites I listed (ourbrisbane.com) was listed in the guides and directories section http://dmoz.org/Regional/Oceania/Au...alities/Brisbane_City/Guides_and_Directories/ I drew the conclusion that this category wasn't really nurtured the way I could. OurBrisbane.com is a site of great importance to the Brisbane City directory, it should be listed parallel to the Brisbane City Council site.

Though I will gracefully take donaldb's advice and try one of the localities and start small to one day grow big.
 

motsa

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I understand your concerns RE: ourbrisbane.com but the site is appropriately listed in the Guides and Directories category and even if you became an editor for the category you wouldn't get to move it up a level. It's a guide so it belongs in a guide category if one exists in the area. That's just the way it is.

The city council site, on the other hand, belongs at the main level given the current category structure (if there was a Government subcategory, it would go there but frankly I wouldn't create a Government category for just one site).
 

esemji

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marque said:
Last night I submitted an application to become an editor of a category that seriously needed some attention. I was hoping that person would be me, until I received a suspiciously prompt reply stating my application was rejected.

Now I understand there is a great deal of scrutiny dealt to reviewing the applications in order to keep the integrity of the directory alive, but this category is lacking behind, in fact some sub-categories are advertising that it needs an editor.

I scrolled down to the bottom of the rejection email to find the reason of my rejection was that two of my sites were already listed. However one of them was completely in the wrong sub-category, and the other was listed under locations. With the search feature not working adequately it was nearly impossible for me to search through all the sub-categories to find if my sites were already listed.

The category I am interested in editing is http://dmoz.org/Regional/Oceania/Australia/Queensland/Municipalities/Brisbane_City/

Rejecting me on the basis that my two of my sites were already listed is a lame excuse. I have a great interest in this category because it is where I grew up, where I lived most of my life and live now, and where I work.
Dear Members,
yes he is right the search feature not working adequately, so that it is very difficult to find out that the suggesting url are exists or not.
rgds
esemji :)
 
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